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Jun 16 2018 02:11pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 16 2018 04:01pm)
Yep, Obama got criticized for eating Mustard. Trump is getting criticized for his first campaign manager laundering money for Russia.

I'd say one gets a larger percent invalid criticism.



Im actually curious to see that article
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Jun 16 2018 02:27pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Jun 16 2018 02:11pm)
Im actually curious to see that article


Just google it.

There were a bunch of articles making fun of Trump for being so embroiled in scandal after like 45 days, but the worst Fox could get on Obama after the same amount of time was him ordering Dijon mustard.
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Jun 16 2018 02:31pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 16 2018 04:27pm)
Just google it.

There were a bunch of articles making fun of Trump for being so embroiled in scandal after like 45 days, but the worst Fox could get on Obama after the same amount of time was him ordering Dijon mustard.


Hannity looked like a derp there. On the other hand Criticism of Obama is still much rarer

When the press asked Obama tougher questions in 2012 the press said the reporters were “subverting democracy.” Now those same reporters are “preserving free speech” when talking to orange hitler
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Jun 16 2018 02:40pm
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Hannity looked like a derp there. On the other hand Criticism of Obama is still much rarer

When the press asked Obama tougher questions in 2012 the press said the reporters were “subverting democracy.” Now those same reporters are “preserving free speech” when talking to orange hitler


What were the questions tougher than?
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Jun 16 2018 02:46pm
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Hannity looked like a derp there. On the other hand Criticism of Obama is still much rarer

When the press asked Obama tougher questions in 2012 the press said the reporters were “subverting democracy.” Now those same reporters are “preserving free speech” when talking to orange hitler


I believe it was social media that was accused of 'subverting democracy' not the press.
I could be wrong though - feel free to link.
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Jun 16 2018 02:52pm
Don't forget Obama wearing a tan suit during press conference. Rep. Peter King said that was unpresidential. Funny how quiet he is nowadays lol.
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Jun 16 2018 03:08pm
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Don't forget Obama wearing a tan suit during press conference. Rep. Peter King said that was unpresidential. Funny how quiet he is nowadays lol.


Yeah, Obama was about as scandal free as a president can get. He was super milk toast so they had to dig deep to find any reason to criticize him.

They had lots of good reasons to criticize him, but generally didn't take the opportunity because they liked those aspects of his presidency.
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Jun 16 2018 03:36pm
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Yeah, Obama was about as scandal free as a president can get. He was super milk toast so they had to dig deep to find any reason to criticize him.

They had lots of good reasons to criticize him, but generally didn't take the opportunity because they liked those aspects of his presidency.


There were some moderate-level scandals... IRS targeting, DOJ under eric holder, fast & furious mexico, and EPA were a few

The media nowadays says they regret not covering them more because the media lost a chuck of credibility because of it

The only equivalent situation in Trump's campaign is Manafort, and Manafort was fired before Trump was even president
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Jun 16 2018 03:44pm
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There were some moderate-level scandals... IRS targeting, DOJ under eric holder, fast & furious mexico, and EPA were a few

The media nowadays says they regret not covering them more because the media lost a chuck of credibility because of it

The only equivalent situation in Trump's campaign is Manafort, and Manafort was fired before Trump was even president


Another is his constant dealing with foreign countries to enrich himself.

His campaign's meeting with Russia is another big one, as much as you guys want to minimize it. It's very likely Kushner gets pardoned by Trump at some point when he gets convicted, or it gets so close Trump has no choice.

Trump had more scandals in his first year than Obama probably had his entire first term.
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Jun 16 2018 03:48pm
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Another is his constant dealing with foreign countries to enrich himself.

His campaign's meeting with Russia is another big one, as much as you guys want to minimize it. It's very likely Kushner gets pardoned by Trump at some point when he gets convicted, or it gets so close Trump has no choice.

Trump had more scandals in his first year than Obama probably had his entire first term.


Nepotism
The fact he's a wifebeating rapist.
Generally using the office to enrich himself.
And never forget steakgate. I don't know how you can do that to a steak and still sleep at night. The man's a fucking monster.
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