Bullshit you said the same junk about Romney

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I haven't read anything on Mueller's political beliefs, where'd you find that he's a Bush/McCain style Republican?

and since when are bush & mccain the same thing?

I didnt say that they were the same thing. But they are both interventionists, globalists, weak on immigration and in favor of neoliberal economy and welfare policies, and so on.






we know that he joined the republican party before 2001, and he was nominated to become director of the fbi by george w. bush. so it's pretty safe to assume that his style and his beliefs are in line, or at least not in conflict, with those of bush. and it's very safe to assume that trumpian republicanism doesnt appeal to him since he was a republican back when the GOP didnt yet contain the tea party or trumpiness.

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I don't think it's safe to assume that at all.

It's worth noting that the George W Bush who campaigned for president in 2000 looked much different than the W Bush presidency. Also worth noting many of the media figures who support Trump now were Bush supporters.

Also why would political beliefs on interventionism, immigration, and trade be relevant when considering who to nominate as FBI director? This is just silly.

I can see your point but basically any politician that operated pre-trump/bannon/altright was a "globalist in favor of the neoliberal economy". especially in the right wing when they used to pretend to believe in free trade. that's a new term that incapcilates almost every established politician, and it's meant to do that. the movement is against the "deepstate" "rinos" "drain the swamp" etc.

John McCain and Hillary Clinton have far more in common than Donald Trump has with either. That's by design. So you're not wrong it's just not noteworthy imo, its baked in the cake with the alt right.

the argument was



so the argument is that mueller is a typical republican, so he should be a natural ally of a republican president - hence, the fact that he and trump are bitter enemies instead is supposed to show what an outlier trump is; and the fact that many long-time republicans (and GOP-leaning media) are on trumps side and are attacking/discrediting mueller is supposed to show that they are "cultists" and "traitors against the republican cause".

this whole argument only makes any sense if one is to assume that the GOP is a largely homogenic bloc that hasnt undergone a policy realignment in between the times of mueller, the registered republican and director of fbi under bush, and the current times of trump and trumpiness.




fair enough.

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New York sues to dissolve Trump Foundation, cites illegal conduct

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-trump-foundation/new-york-sues-to-dissolve-trump-foundation-cites-illegal-conduct-idUSKBN1JA26G




If this isn't just another pile of New York BS, I'll be surprised.

My point stands.

What's really idiotic and silly is Trump people thinking that Mueller's party affiliation even matters. The day before he was appointed special counsel, almost everyone in Washington thought he was a man above reproach.