Ive watched the video too, what im suggesting is that there was an injury given to Freddie previous to the start of that video. I think he was slammed into the cement when an officer caught him after he ran away.

If you have a video that shows the cops initially approach him, him running away, the cops eventually catching up with him, the cops detaining and cuffing him, then putting him into the van please let me know. I cant find any videos that show anywhere near what all happened. There are only a few clips of the cops dragging him into the van where he looks unresponsive.

Short of having the above mentioned video im not sure why you wont just admit you have no proof whatsoever that a black officer was or wasnt involved in hurting Gray. Just because you see photos or evidence of 3 white men carrying him at one point doesnt mean you can logically assume what happened. And i can tell you that if one of the officers did mishandle Gray the other officers likely would have taken over the arrest, thats fairly common procedure. Separate the officer to cool off and not risk another incedent, especially because im sure everyone was gathering around at that point. Whether thats what happened i have no clue, but im not going to blindly assume just so it fits the racist narrative a bit better...



More of your own strawman fantasies played out. I stated multiple times i have no fucking clue what happened.

As to the white priviledge please tell me one single thing you've ever done for a minority that has changed their life for the positive. Job placement, drug treatment, ties their shoe when their hands were full, anything will do. Otherwise your just another talker.

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I dont have any clue either exactly what happened before that video - but i'm not the one trying to defend white officers by saying there might be a possibility that somehow a black officer might be responsible, or the one that is confused as to why black people would think that years of intolerance might have some reason to question and be outraged as to Police motivations, the only evidence i've seen suggests otherwise. You should try using your eyes to see and not your heart.

Liar. Plain and simple.



Your quote clearly states you implicitly think that 3 white officers are responsible for the arresting, handcuffing, and mistreatment of Freddie Gray leading to his death. You claim to know this without any knowledge affirming it other than your assumptions and a few incomplete clips. Not to mention the utter lack of ANY video or photo of Gray's initial apprehension.

Im not trying to defend the white officers whatsoever, im simply challenging you fairytale narrative which you have no legitimate proof to back up except for your applied racial motivations that you also cannot confirm. If the white officers or black officers mishandled Gray they deserve to be punished, that has always been my stance. Yours seems to be that 3 black officers are getting punished for something they just stood and watched, even though you have absolutely no proof and for some reason will not just admit you have no proof.

Please enlighten me Card Sultan, how is me stating that 3 of the 6 officers who have been FORMALLY CHARGED in this case could have possibly been involved a defense of the 3 white cops? Please make sense of that for me because as is i dont understand your logic whatsoever.

Nice dodge on the white privilege part tho, my guess is you cross the street when a black guy is strolling down your neck of the Canadian northwoods. But you sure do love to throw around that white privilege tag at anyone you can dont you hypocrite? Constantly berating people for not backing up minorities enough from your white perch...

yes that statement implies that, but of course i was replying to a picture that was confused about why Black people are outraged, they are outraged because of the actual evidence, the evidence that shows white officers mistreating an innocent man. You can kindly take back the liar accusation, in fact don't - just be a typical angry white boy with excuses. It'll be easier for me to hysterical laugh at anything you say.

Ill be happy to recant calling you a liar as soon as you address the hypocrisy of you constantly throwing the "white privilege" tag anywhere its convenient for you.

Ill ask you again what makes you any better than those you attempt to slander with that "white privilege" argument you have conveniently waiting in your front pocket? Awareness of the problem? Any action whatsoever to help out?

My guess is your just another outraged kid who thinks his awareness of racial injustice makes him better, if you're not doing anything to physically help out you're nothing but a hypocrite, but by all means please let me know if you have done anything worthwhile in the defense of racial injustice and ill be 100% happy to recant all of what ive said.

Id answer you but of course you have a propensity toward the preposterous, and i choose to stop playing with philanderous people.

Thats a very vocabulary intensive way to dodge, but its still a dodge.

Not surprised you've been dodging my very pointed and straightforward questions for about 2 pages now.

still waiting for you to apologize for calling me a liar for your own misunderstanding, till then you're not worth the effort.

I'm very sorry that i misunderstood the meaning of your statement, now please tell me all of the things you do for minorities.

Well i have dated a black woman, In college i shared an apartment with 3 guys - one was black. In my building there are black people that are not only my friends - I've shared dinner with them. Have i recommended to any black person that they attend rehab or seek work in a particular field - um idk - but i would probably only give that advice to someone in my immediate family. Ohh there was one time this black couple i knew that had some marital problems, he would get angry and hit his wife - he actually got arrested, so I talked to him about how you can't be hitting women and that when you get angry, the only solution is to go for a walk until you cool down, been 10 years and they haven't had any problems since.

As to why i called you a typical white boy I refer to your insistence that people should automatically assume that if a black person was simply involved, then there must be guilt that will be proved even though none of the actual evidence shows that. Sure it might turn out great for the white officers, but to talk about that small of a chance in the face of what seems pretty clear cut, its rather obvious that you're simply "A Great White Hope"r (James Earl Jones movie in the 70s i highly recommend) As to why they were all arrested, it's far easier to arrest everyone that might be involved as you don't wanna play all your cards to quick and basically it had to be done to quell the protests and restore order. Now we can question all the officers about their involvement and roles without them refusing to talk and incriminate themselves.