perhaps reserved propaganda for the slaves, down under prison island.

snail boi also muslim?

i remember seeing some stuff that islam sold out to the WEF or was it just one of the islamic nations? i dont remember.....

its weird thogh isnt it? so many people and so many governments sell right out?..........but?

if the banks are the only ones with money and buying ev1 up that they need to push their vision of the future??

This post was edited by TiStuff on May 26 2022 06:17am

Pakistani illegal invader.

the mistake you make is the same one every Elon hater makes. "he takes the credit", no. his investors give him credit, he takes nothing. continually he gives the credit to the lead engineers in his companies. but unlike most capital investors he actually understands the engineering. he has a solid working knowledge of every aspect of a varied range of high tech businesses. he's not the messiah tesla fanboys want him to be, and he's not the Trump-like trust fund pocket book his haters want him to be either.

liberals begged for electric cars and the guy who makes it happen is demonized for getting stock rich by doing it successfully ahead of schedule using the subsidies and programs liberals created. he's Frankenstein's monster, but if it was Dodge or Ford, a faceless corporation reaping the benefits, they'd be lauded as patriots as they cashed in hundred million dollar bonuses. Liberals wanted the big players to divest from oil, they didn't, and an outsider came in, and that made liberals mad somehow.

This post was edited by thesnipa on May 26 2022 06:28am

Dont listen this turd, he's just mad

That's very naive. Elon Musk actively cultivates his image as the lone genius making everything happen and that's been his preferred image long before he was even bought out by paypal. If he wants to give credit and not just feign fake humility then take a lead engineer to a high profile interview. No, he wants credit and notoriety. That's a major draw for him. It's been his thing since X.com where he actively fought with everybody over how they were going to "revolutionize banking".

I am not convinced he has a solid understanding of the engineering. Everything I've seen has demonstrated he's pretty ignorant of basic engineering principles. If you have something tangible that contradicts that then let me know, but the stuff he signs his name on that has zero chance of working is testament to that. He blew a shit load of money on the hyperloop which never had a chance and was obviously impossible to make feasible.

Tesla was already running without him. Ford, GM, and all the other big manufacturers were already actively involved in the electric car space before Tesla. Tesla used a lot of hype to drive market share for an honestly subpar product. It's pretty silly to say he's doing anything ahead of schedule.

He's a capitalist fighting with other capitalists. He's not an engineering hero. He isn't somebody who came from nothing and made their way in the world. He's a capitalist who failed upwards until he had enough capital to invest in a bunch of startups, when those startups failed he got them acquired by pitching them to ignorant venture capitalists, and then he got incredibly wealthy when one of those startups took off. The only difference between him and every other capitalist with obscenely rich parents is that he actively cultivates his public image as the "technical savant who's so smart and revolutionizing the world".



Also, LOL @ your previous post that we demonize Elon Musk types. Elon Musk is one of the richest people in the world and has a massive cult of personality built around him. Even if he totally divested tomorrow he'd remain a billionaire. How is that not an adequate reward? How is he "demonized"? The system is set up specifically to reward the Elon Musks even at the expense of millions.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on May 26 2022 07:34am

when he put the smack down on twiter................REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I couldn't care less about Twitter. It's a cess pool and I don't even have a twitter account. Well, maybe I have one from several years ago that I never logged into? Idk.

But yes, the incredibly stupid Twitter deal was something that precipitated me looking more into Musk. I'd heard Musk say so many stupid things over the years that I decided to take a deeper look, and came to the really obvious conclusion that Musk isn't that smart. He just dips his fingers in a lot of pies, and hopes he doesn't fuck one up beyond repair.

Solar City - Actively defrauded Tesla investors to bail it out.
Zip2 - All of his code was discarded before being sold to compaq during the dotcom boom.
X.com - All of his code was discarded before being sold to paypal during the dotcom boom.
SpaceX - Burning through a massive amount of money to make marginal improvements on rocket technology. Not even close to profitable. Reusable rockets and all that jazz was already in the works, and his company is making small improvements over time in line with the already existant trajectory.
Boring Company - Digs tunnels at marginally worse dollar per mile rates than other typical tunnel developments, then claims he's doing it with 10x efficiency.
Neuralink - Actively drove out the Ph.Ds in the field who started the company and left it as the current dumpster fire because he wanted to make a bunch of impossible technology.

He has one success, and a massive number of failures that were frankly never possible from the start. Musk is not that intelligent. He's a hype man. Don't get me wrong, having a hype man in business is important. But he's not somebody who's engineering prowess brings value to these companies.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on May 26 2022 07:11am

interesting take on the evolution of gun laws
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/nra-guns-second-amendment-106856/?fbclid=IwAR1uNGcZbmC_mkue4gew8h1TC9Lr32qkFBGf8M6ee8tiguEp5V9CpPJQnc4

shares a long post demonizing Elon musk only to end with a blurb that makes it look like you confused "demonized" with "demonetized".

"tesla is a sub par product" LOL

"big car companies were going to do 1% of their fleet in electric already, THAT COUNTS!" LOL

"news outlets totally want to talk with engineers but meanie elon wont bring them!" LOL

what a hilariously bad take lol. there is an elon cult, and there's an anti-elon cult. don your robe. i actually know tesla engineers lol, you're just reading /r/antiwork shitposts is my guess. if i point out those tesla engineers all say elon understands the engineering you'll pull out a tinfoil had and assert they're just saying that to suck up or keep their jobs, even if they told me over a beer after 10 years of friendship.