Quote (fender @ May 25 2022 08:54am)
nice whataboutism, doesn't change the fact that large parts of europe don't just enjoy more rights and protections than the US, but also significantly more freedom.
we work fewer hours, have less poverty, guaranteed maternity leave, significantly lower prison populations, affordable healthcare... it's almost like guns are NOT what protects you from government tyranny, it's almost like you're just using that as an excuse to justify that you simply value your right to play with guns more than the right of kids to not be massacred...
Is working fewer hours a good thing?
Bragging about relative poverty rates in poor countries is not a good look. Even when you take health-care spending into account, median disposable income is simply far better in the United States. You're doing two things, you're describing poverty in relative terms, and then you're bucketing poorer locales by country to improve their relative score. By the CIA's figures, the poverty rate in Germany, Belgium, and the United States is virtually the same. Meanwhile, Turkey, Albania, Russia, and Uzbekistan are all doing better. Does that sound like a sound methodology to you?
The right to bear arms can't be extricated from the wider relationship Americans have with their government. Americans want freedom from government, see the covid-19 response. You don't get to pick and choose, either you have rights that are inherently reserved to you, or you are a servant of the state (see: UK).
Finally, you're couching this in very emotional terms. High profile mass shootings make up a very small percentage of homicide deaths. Homicide in the United States varies significantly by state, and the relationship between homicides and gun ownership is very weak. Before we embark on a national crusade to strip Americans of gun rights, we probably want to understand why Idaho, Vermont, and New Hampshire have very low rates of homicide, despite relatively high rates of gun ownership, and why Maryland has such a high homicide rate, despite relatively low gun ownership. For that matter, we probably also want to understand what's driving higher and lower homicide rates around the world.