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Feb 16 2022 04:06am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Feb 16 2022 12:04am)


its kind of a stretch to say that there is a german-russian alliance around the corner, if it werent for the evil united states, but there are some good points in there

but i definitely think that russia (not necessarily the putin regime) should be a natural ally of ours

nobody stands up against these ridiculous american statements about nord stream 2, nobody has the balls to tell them to shut the fuck up and mind their own business

by the way, its really funny that most politicians and the media whined about trump opposing the pipeline, only to find out that the sleepy joe they celebrated is even more aggressive when it comes to this project

i am pro nord stream 2, affordable natural gas is always welcome

however the real problem here is that the retarded german anti science politicians are destroying our electricity supply and energy supply in a way that makes russian gas an absolute must

the pipeline is ready to go, its only some fanatic bureaucrats from the green party trying to block deliveries
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Feb 16 2022 05:59am
Its pretty bad timing that the west blinking against Russia is coming right as the EU's high court drives home the fatal wedge between the western EU and Poland/Hungary;
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/16/eu-court-dismisses-polish-hungarian-challenge-to-rule-of-law-mechanism.html

With the EU threatening to freeze all payments to Poland and Hungary in an attempt to have Brussels usurp their local governance and force them into changing their internal politics to mirror their French and German masters, it could prove the pivotal issue in a sea change of post-Brexit dissolution of the European Union. Hungary is at its most fervent pro-EU sentiment of all time but that comes only as the EU pumps huge amounts of money to them, the top issue voters regarded in their pro-EU opinions. Just a few months ago Magyar Nemzet ran a front page article saying "Its Time to Talk About Huxit", which triggered a major backlash. With this decision, Hungary is going to have a dramatic political shift, and the gears are going to start turning towards Huxit. Polexit also goes from grumblings in the fringe to a real possibility. Poles have tolerated all the abuse from the EU as long as the money kept flowing to them.

Russia has its wedge handed to them on a silver platter, once again. The EU just cannot help itself. They constantly find new ways to divide themselves and self destruct, and Russia only has to sit back and watch their NATO rivals turn on one another. The green movement that obliterated Germany's domestic energy production and made them suckle at Putin's teat? That wasn't some Russian plot. The flood of migrants? Russia just rustled them up in the mideast, they had no way to force the EU to take them, the EU did it to themselves. And now at the same time Russia is encircling Ukraine, the EU is withdrawing its support from Poland. Hope the Poles get over their historical aversions to slavs in the next 20 years
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Feb 16 2022 06:39am
Quote (Goomshill @ 16 Feb 2022 11:59)
Its pretty bad timing that the west blinking against Russia is coming right as the EU's high court drives home the fatal wedge between the western EU and Poland/Hungary;
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/02/16/eu-court-dismisses-polish-hungarian-challenge-to-rule-of-law-mechanism.html

With the EU threatening to freeze all payments to Poland and Hungary in an attempt to have Brussels usurp their local governance and force them into changing their internal politics to mirror their French and German masters, it could prove the pivotal issue in a sea change of post-Brexit dissolution of the European Union. Hungary is at its most fervent pro-EU sentiment of all time but that comes only as the EU pumps huge amounts of money to them, the top issue voters regarded in their pro-EU opinions. Just a few months ago Magyar Nemzet ran a front page article saying "Its Time to Talk About Huxit", which triggered a major backlash. With this decision, Hungary is going to have a dramatic political shift, and the gears are going to start turning towards Huxit. Polexit also goes from grumblings in the fringe to a real possibility. Poles have tolerated all the abuse from the EU as long as the money kept flowing to them.

Russia has its wedge handed to them on a silver platter, once again. The EU just cannot help itself. They constantly find new ways to divide themselves and self destruct, and Russia only has to sit back and watch their NATO rivals turn on one another. The green movement that obliterated Germany's domestic energy production and made them suckle at Putin's teat? That wasn't some Russian plot. The flood of migrants? Russia just rustled them up in the mideast, they had no way to force the EU to take them, the EU did it to themselves. And now at the same time Russia is encircling Ukraine, the EU is withdrawing its support from Poland. Hope the Poles get over their historical aversions to slavs in the next 20 years


Sorry but the unfair far right leaders who are violating democracy do not deserve money, this should have been cut since a while already:

European Parliament is impatient, it even initiated an appeal for inaction against the Commission. The decision of the Court must be discussed in the Strasbourg hemicycle Wednesday afternoon.
"It's a major victory, Europe finally has a powerful and concrete leverage to punishpopulist leaders who want to silence all the counterparts of our democratic model," said Fabienne Keller (Renew Europe)

This is not enough IMO but well, FINALLY ! This is good news.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Feb 16 2022 06:39am
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Feb 16 2022 06:49am
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Sorry but the unfair far right leaders who are violating democracy do not deserve money, this should have been cut since a while already:

European Parliament is impatient, it even initiated an appeal for inaction against the Commission. The decision of the Court must be discussed in the Strasbourg hemicycle Wednesday afternoon.
"It's a major victory, Europe finally has a powerful and concrete leverage to punishpopulist leaders who want to silence all the counterparts of our democratic model," said Fabienne Keller (Renew Europe)

This is not enough IMO but well, FINALLY ! This is good news.


Ah yes it really reflects the most important central tenet of the 'democratic model', where a foreign power subjugates a nation and tells it how it should run its internal affairs. After all, democracy is too important and valuable to be left up to the whims of the voters. Its incumbent upon the EU masters to impose their will on rogue nations like Hungary and Poland and punish those populist leaders who pretend they have a mandate because they are 'elected' by the 'voters'. Democracy is far more easy to manage when you remove the will of the people from the equation.
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Feb 16 2022 08:09am
hungary and poland leaving the EU would be awesome. they are massive drains on our budget, while consistently refusing to contribute to solving crucial issues. recent developments saw severe restrictions of press freedom and democratic principles, like a true separation of powers, in those countries, which clearly goes against EU membership requirements. still don't expect it to actually happen though, the billions they receive are just too sweet for them, their economies would be in shambles without us... still good they are finally being held to account though.
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Feb 16 2022 08:34am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Feb 16 2022 05:06am)
its kind of a stretch to say that there is a german-russian alliance around the corner, if it werent for the evil united states, but there are some good points in there

but i definitely think that russia (not necessarily the putin regime) should be a natural ally of ours

nobody stands up against these ridiculous american statements about nord stream 2, nobody has the balls to tell them to shut the fuck up and mind their own business

by the way, its really funny that most politicians and the media whined about trump opposing the pipeline, only to find out that the sleepy joe they celebrated is even more aggressive when it comes to this project

i am pro nord stream 2, affordable natural gas is always welcome

however the real problem here is that the retarded german anti science politicians are destroying our electricity supply and energy supply in a way that makes russian gas an absolute must

the pipeline is ready to go, its only some fanatic bureaucrats from the green party trying to block deliveries


Yeah i agree, it's a stretch to think that the only thing standing in the way of a Russo-German natural alliance is America, i think this author is biased but i do think a weaker form of his argument is valid.
It logically explains a lot of things including why Ukraine and the US have been so vehemently opposed to the pipeline.

I'm curious to hear from more Germans, like what % of Germans are opposed to the pipeline and why. To me it makes no sense, especially at a time when nuclear reactors are being turned off and there is a huge push to get off coal.


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Feb 16 2022 08:48am
Quote (Goomshill @ 16 Feb 2022 12:49)
Ah yes it really reflects the most important central tenet of the 'democratic model', where a foreign power subjugates a nation and tells it how it should run its internal affairs. After all, democracy is too important and valuable to be left up to the whims of the voters. Its incumbent upon the EU masters to impose their will on rogue nations like Hungary and Poland and punish those populist leaders who pretend they have a mandate because they are 'elected' by the 'voters'. Democracy is far more easy to manage when you remove the will of the people from the equation.


They drink the soup and then spit in the plate ...!

Hungary and Poland have the ENTIRE FREEDOM to leave European Union.
Their populist leaders are simply too afraid to do it, they would lose their voters.

The only thing i hope is that Viktor Orban lose his incoming elections. And that Poland will follow ASAP.
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Feb 16 2022 10:28am
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 16 2022 05:49am)
Ah yes it really reflects the most important central tenet of the 'democratic model', where a foreign power subjugates a nation and tells it how it should run its internal affairs. After all, democracy is too important and valuable to be left up to the whims of the voters. Its incumbent upon the EU masters to impose their will on rogue nations like Hungary and Poland and punish those populist leaders who pretend they have a mandate because they are 'elected' by the 'voters'. Democracy is far more easy to manage when you remove the will of the people from the equation.


Well said.

Maybe our "European partners" should adopt the attitude of one Victoria Nuland and declare, "Fuck the EU!"

The European Union elites are just as bad as any other group of self-serving elite scumbags. They will keep their people in chains and in poverty, tied to IMF debt and under threat of austerity for the rest of their miserable lives.

All while continuing to blame Russia for all their internal problems, of course.
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Feb 16 2022 10:32am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Feb 16 2022 07:48am)
They drink the soup and then spit in the plate ...!

Hungary and Poland have the ENTIRE FREEDOM to leave European Union.
Their populist leaders are simply too afraid to do it, they would lose their voters.

The only thing i hope is that Viktor Orban lose his incoming elections. And that Poland will follow ASAP.


The reason they aren't leaving is because they are slaves to the international criminal banking cartels. They are under financial blackmail and can't operate freely.

Europeans need to grow a pair and learn how to run their economies without being dependent on the criminals over at the World Bank and IMF, otherwise they will never be free.
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