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Dec 9 2021 06:42pm
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That's not a system that's just one home appraiser giving his opinion who happened to be racist nice try.

Also there are plenty of examples where home appraisers under or over value something that have nothing to do with race. waaaaaa waaa


Systemically there is a trend with black homes being undervalued, and you are just moving goal posts after getting called out. First you say racism in this century is a 'minor inconvenience at worst', then I show an example of a $500,000 dollar valuation of a property and you are like errr actually that is just one person being racist, there are other cases of hosue valuation variation (ofc you provide nothing of this magnitude because you are just making excuses for racism). How is having your house lose that much value a 'minor inconvenience'? I consider a minor inconvenience being something like a restaurant forgetting to add napkins to your to go order, something you want at the store being out of stock, etc.

Then again you are trying to equalize those minor inconveniences with systemic targeting of minorities by police, increased jail sentences, medical discrimination, and god knows what else.
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Quote (LouisLeGros @ Dec 10 2021 01:42pm)
Systemically there is a trend with black homes being undervalued, and you are just moving goal posts after getting called out. First you say racism in this century is a 'minor inconvenience at worst', then I show an example of a $500,000 dollar valuation of a property and you are like errr actually that is just one person being racist, there are other cases of hosue valuation variation (ofc you provide nothing of this magnitude because you are just making excuses for racism). How is having your house lose that much value a 'minor inconvenience'? I consider a minor inconvenience being something like a restaurant forgetting to add napkins to your to go order, something you want at the store being out of stock, etc.

Then again you are trying to equalize those minor inconveniences with systemic targeting of minorities by police, increased jail sentences, medical discrimination, and god knows what else.


If there is a system in place that actively seeking to devalue black homes then we should seek to change that. We have actual laws around this If its truly racist as you point out. Take it to court seek for damages claim.
Sounds like a shady dealer trying to make a buck. Besides its only an opinion. If you selling your house it will be put to the highest bidder anyway. The house evaluators just give indication what to expect.
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Dec 9 2021 08:27pm
One of my x gave her daughter the racism talk when she was 9. This talk involved her defining racism as any situation where a white person disagrees with a black person. Now good for her I was there to rectify that situation before it got out of hand.

Apparently Louis here got a similar talk, but nobody clarified for him.

A man who happened to be black got a lowball valuation on his house.

Okay >_>
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Dec 9 2021 08:30pm
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If there is a system in place that actively seeking to devalue black homes then we should seek to change that. We have actual laws around this If its truly racist as you point out. Take it to court seek for damages claim.
Sounds like a shady dealer trying to make a buck. Besides its only an opinion. If you selling your house it will be put to the highest bidder anyway. The house evaluators just give indication what to expect.


"Take it to court" as though the burden to prove it isn't obscenely high, and the targeted group is poorer than average and probably won't cover their attorneys fees so even if they win a significant chunk of those damages will go to fighting the case.

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One of my x gave her daughter the racism talk when she was 9. This talk involved her defining racism as any situation where a white person disagrees with a black person. Now good for her I was there to rectify that situation before it got out of hand.
Apparently Louis here got a similar talk, but nobody clarified for him.
A man who happened to be black got a lowball valuation on his house.
Okay >_>


I'll take things that never happened for 500 Alex.

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Quote (SorceressAndrea @ Dec 8 2021 07:17pm)
Racism doesn't mean white people dont suffer or struggle.
It means white people don't struggle because of their race.

Minorities have to deal with all the things white people do just add in racism.

Yes, actually I can but that has no relevance here whatsoever.
One of the many problems is that white people have opportunities minorities never will.
That is what white privilege is.



Not like you will listen.

During the 2015–2016 school year, Black students represented only 15% of total US student enrollment, but they made up 35% of students suspended once, 44% of students suspended more than once, and 36% of students expelled. The US Department of Education concluded that this disparity is “not explained by more frequent or more serious misbehavior by students of color.”[1]

In New York City, 88% of police stops in 2018 involved Black and Latinx people, while 10% involved white people. (Of those stops, 70% were completely innocent.)[2]

In one US survey, 15.8% of students reported experiencing race-based bullying or harassment. Research has found significant associations between racial bullying and negative mental and physical health in students.[3]

From 2013 to 2017, white patients in the US received better quality health care than about 34% of Hispanic patients, 40% of Black patients, and 40% of Native American patients.[4]

Black women are 3 to 4 times more likely to experience a pregnancy-related death than white women, even at similar levels of income and education.[5]

Black Americans are more likely than white Americans to be arrested. Once arrested, they are more likely to be convicted, and once convicted, they are more likely to experience lengthy prison sentences.[6]

Black Americans and white Americans use drugs at similar rates, but Black Americans are 6 times more likely to be arrested for it.[7]

On average, Black men in the US receive sentences that are 19.1% longer than those of white men convicted for the same crimes.[8]

In the US, Black individuals are twice as likely to be unemployed than white individuals. Once employed, Black individuals earn nearly 25% less than their white counterparts.[9]

One US study found that job resumes with traditionally white-sounding names received 50% more callbacks than those with traditionally Black names.[10]

In the US, Black workers are less likely than white workers to be employed in a job that is consistent with their level of education.[11]


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New York Civil Liberties Union. “Stop-and-Frisk Data.” https://www.nyclu.org/en/stop-and-frisk-data. Accessed Feb. 5, 2020. ↩︎

Russell et al. “Adolescent Health and Harassment Based on Discriminatory Bias.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3487669/. Accessed Feb. 5, 2020. Rosenthal et al. “Weight and Race Based Bullying: Health Associations Among Urban Adolescents.” http://www.uconnruddcenter.org/resources/upload/docs/what/communities/WeightRaceBullying_PhysicalHealth_JOHP_10.13.pdf. Accessed Feb. 5, 2020. ↩︎

Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality. “National Healthcare Quality and Disparities Report.” https://www.ahrq.gov/sites/default/files/wysiwyg/research/findings/nhqrdr/2018qdr-final.pdf. Accessed Feb. 5, 2020. ↩︎

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The Sentencing Project. “Report to the United Nations on Racial Disparities in the U.S. Criminal Justice System.” https://www.sentencingproject.org/publications/un-report-on-racial-disparities/. Accessed Feb. 5, 2020. ↩︎

NAACP. “Criminal Justice Fact Sheet.” https://www.naacp.org/criminal-justice-fact-sheet/. Accessed Feb. 4, 2020. ↩︎

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Abdul Latif Jameel Poverty Action Lab. “Discrimination in the Job Market in the United States.” https://www.povertyactionlab.org/evaluation/discrimination-job-market-united-states. Accessed Feb. 5, 2020. ↩︎

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the poor white man is the target of reverse racism and really doesnt have a support system that many minority groups have.

Christ was an example of this or that a smart poor white man would be hated by the world & this notion continues to date unfortunately,
because that individual is the greatest threat to the establishment's status quo or control system.

smart enough to changes things, but poor enough to avoid materialistic mind games.
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Dec 9 2021 10:39pm
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"Take it to court" as though the burden to prove it isn't obscenely high, and the targeted group is poorer than average and probably won't cover their attorneys fees so even if they win a significant chunk of those damages will go to fighting the case.


Right because tweeting and crying is more effective? Also which part of opinion don't you understand its not like they were forced to sell at that price. I can certainly see that as an inconvenience to have your house undervalued but you can get a 2nd or 3rd opinions. After that you let the house go to the highest bidder which is what actually matters not the valuation. But let me guess your kind isn't interested to hear solutions you would rather cry in the corner and tell the world how life isn't fair. Waaaaa waaaa!

Heck if I was black and had my house valued at 0 I would say ok thanks bye there are literally apps and websites that tell you house prices which you should be able to gather a rough estimate anyway in few mins.

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Dec 9 2021 10:48pm
Quote (addone @ Dec 9 2021 10:39pm)
Right because tweeting and crying is more effective? Also which part of opinion don't you understand its not like they were forced to sell at that price. I can certainly see that as an inconvenience to have your house undervalued but you can get a 2nd or 3rd opinions. After that you let the house go to the highest bidder which is what actually matters not the valuation. But let me guess your kind isn't interested to hear solutions you would rather cry in the corner and tell the world how life isn't fair. Waaaaa waaaa!

Heck if I was black and had my house valued at 0 I would say ok thanks bye there are literally apps and websites that tell you house prices which you should be able to gather a rough estimate anyway in few mins.


I can tell you're a poor who's never owned a home, or you would understand that home valuations are used for way more than just selling. Any kind of financing for your home will be dependent on the home's valuation.

Oh, and getting 2nd and 3rd opinions costs money. So you're saying you're fine with a system that discriminates and costs more to get a fair price based on race.

Adults who own property know how hindering it can be to have a home appraisal go poorly.
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Dec 9 2021 11:11pm
Quote (Santara @ Dec 6 2021 11:07am)
There should be no minimum wage. None.


There shouldn’t be one in a version of utopia that’ll never happen. Painfully idealistic.

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Dec 9 2021 11:13pm
Quote (Interesting @ Dec 9 2021 11:11pm)
There shouldn’t be one in a version of utopia that’ll never happen. Painfully idealistic.


Nah, we just actually have to enforce union busting, get rid of right to work, and all the other shit that the government has done since Reagan to fuck over unions.
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