Quote (addone @ Dec 4 2021 12:33am)

She does have 7 children

Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ Dec 4 2021 01:28am)

They do by finding ways to apply the constitution to things that are new/different from 1776.

A good example is the end of slavery. They had to set precedent to include the rights of blacks specifically, because it was not explicit in the document. Obviously because the world was different and slavery was just a part of life across the globe, with exceptions. This is something that everybody can agree should not have been left up to the states to decide.

Bad example is abortion. There is a better constitutional argument to simply outlaw abortion flat out. I am not saying this is the way to go but the right to life is written law. At the very least the right to end a life should be up to the states, just like the death penalty.

One of the many arguments against roe is that they were basically pulling at strings to somehow fit abortion into being a right, and made it federal law.

Quote (sirthom @ Dec 4 2021 07:11am)

I don't need to be a woman to know killing babies is bad. :(

Quote (sirthom @ 4 Dec 2021 13:11)

I don't need to be a woman to know killing babies is bad. :(

Quote (fender @ Dec 4 2021 08:33am)

apparently you need to be a woman to know what a "baby" is though. google it. abortion is not "killing babies", idiot.

Quote (sirthom @ 4 Dec 2021 15:48)

Sure it is and you know it.
Then why do you say when is the baby due?
No one needs a doctor or anyone else to point out what is blatantly obvious.
Do you need a doctor to tell you dog shit is bad?

It's a baby.
Don't kill them.
The end.

Quote (fender @ Dec 4 2021 08:59am)

you're making silly and incorrect emotional arguments in a debate that's about a court of religious zealots undermining the right of bodily self-determination. if men could get pregnant, abortions would be a basic right for centuries now.

a person's rights outweigh your feelings about a zygote.

Quote (Sioux @ Dec 3 2021 09:07pm)

Nothing like a video game board filled with 95%+ men arguing about how to regulate women's bodies.

Never change pard.

Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ Dec 4 2021 06:01am)

I have challenged every single thing you have said all night, up to and a little after that. You refuse to concede even things that are explicitly written in the constitution. It is exhausting having to say the same thing repeatedly as you try to scramble your word salad around more and more when you were wrong to begin with.

Get your last word in though so you can triumphantly state that I am running away, I have to do real life things. Fucking clown.

Quote (IceMage @ Dec 4 2021 09:53am)

Actually we're discussing how to protect the lives of the unborn, as well as the mental and spiritual health of these mothers and fathers who are willing to sacrifice their unborn children on the altar of freedom for the capitalist gods.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 4 2021 11:04am)

"spiritual health"

you religious people are silly. Making things up to justify oppression. The same argument was made to justify slavery. They weren't beating the shit out of them, they were "spiritually enlightening them through service".