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Nov 3 2021 07:47am
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 3 2021 07:37am)
Did Kyle know that the people he was to go with put up a message on FB saying that they intended to shoot up the protest? Maybe he didn't know and just went with them to counter-protest or some such. Also, maybe he carries a gun habitually. He didn't specifically bring one for the express purpose of creating violence.


Yes I'm sure everyone will draw the conclusion that Kyle habitually carries a gun into other states where its illegal for him to be carrying it.
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Nov 3 2021 07:48am
Quote (SBD @ Nov 3 2021 08:28am)
There's probably something to say about these radical online groups where you're all collectively contributing at getting each person worked up.

No normal individual I know would take up arms to go defend a gas station in another state or province. Something has clearly influenced a young mind or the mind wasn't right to begin with.

It's like the old school Army commercials where they play all kinds of high adrenaline scenes back to back to jet you pumped up and make you think fuck yeah that's for me. Then you think about it for ten seconds with a clear mind and realize, oh yeah no thanks.

This kid must have been so entrenched into social medial groups that it was just a constant feed of information to get the blood flowing and go do dumb shit like this.

You take a young sponge and toss it into a group where you have a bunch of Helical idiots posting the world hates whites 24/7 you might believe it. If you just walked away for ten seconds and thought rationally you would realize oh yeah I just have a regular life, no need to think everyone hates me.


if a BLM protester shot Kyle in self defense the other side would say "he shouldnt have brought a gun, he knew it would get violent and become a riot, and he came there to riot"

meanwhile they support Kyle bringing a gun, knowing it would get violent and become a riot, that's literally why he was there to prevent property damage in a riot, and they believe he came there for no reason other than to provide first aid and prevent property damage. not because it can be proved, but because he said so.

people riling up crowds on both sides make this happen and then sit safely in ivory towers, be they tucker carlsons crying crocodile tears for gas stations that have to wait a month for insurance checks or politicians smiling as angry people burn their own neighborhoods.
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Nov 3 2021 07:48am
Quote (thundercock @ Nov 2 2021 11:43am)
I stand by my original statement that we're living in the best of times.


For you, maybe. But not for many people.

The only reason you uttered that statement is because you are only concerned about yourself. You do not see nor care about other people, who are struggling.
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Nov 3 2021 07:51am
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 3 2021 07:48am)
For you, maybe. But not for many people.

The only reason you uttered that statement is because you are only concerned about yourself. You do not see nor care about other people, who are struggling.


No, hes using averages. The quality of life index has only increased. We are living in the best of times. You just happen to have access to more information that shows people of different statuses now compared to back in the early 1900s or even 1960s where you knew a limited amount of people living a better life than you.

Life expectancy, education, wealth, nutrition, disease prevention, equality, etc. Everything is better than the past. You don't exactly see a large population dying at 40 in a potato field these days.

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Nov 3 2021 07:52am
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Yes I'm sure everyone will draw the conclusion that Kyle habitually carries a gun into other states where its illegal for him to be carrying it.


Not sure what your point is.

The fact it's illegal in another state to carry does not negate the fact that maybe he likes to have a gun around on his person. Maybe he was just being dumb.
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Nov 3 2021 07:55am
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No, hes using averages. The quality of life index has only increased. We are living in the best of times. You just happen to have access to more information that shows people of different statuses now compared to back in the early 1900s or even 1960s where you knew a limited amount of people living a better life than you.

Life expectancy, education, wealth, nutrition, disease prevention, equality, etc. Everything is better than the past.


It's a matter of different perceptions, then.

I don't care to convince you or him that we are living in "worse times". It's pointless to argue. I stand by my statement that a lot of people are struggling, and that the good life you seem to trumpet about might only apply to a select few.
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Nov 3 2021 07:59am
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 3 2021 07:55am)
It's a matter of different perceptions, then.

I don't care to convince you or him that we are living in "worse times". It's pointless to argue. I stand by my statement that a lot of people are struggling, and that the good life you seem to trumpet about might only apply to a select few.


No it's not a matter of perceptions. It's statistics, and statistically we are living in the best of times. This is IRS, consensus, and other data collected its not going door to door in Hollywood like you seem to think.

It does not mean people dont struggle. It just means its the best of times to date.

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Nov 3 2021 08:03am
Quote (SBD @ Nov 3 2021 06:59am)
No it's not a matter of perceptions. It's statistics, and statistically we are living in the best of times. This is IRS, consensus, and other data collected its not going door to door in Hollywood like you seem to think.


You said it yourself, statistically. It's taking a sample of a group of people and then average it out, or some such. Yes I agree you will find people who are "living large". But you will also see a lot of people struggling. Personally, I don't care how rich, and how good some people have it. If there are people living on the street, seniors who are forced to choose between their medications or grocery, or kids who are living below poverty line, then to me only some of us are living in the best of times.

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Nov 3 2021 08:06am
Quote (JessiWan @ Nov 3 2021 08:03am)
You said it yourself, statistically. It's taking a sample of a group of people and then average it out, or some such. Yes I agree you will find people who are "living large". But you will also see a lot of people struggling. Personally, I don't care how rich, and how good some people have it. If there are people living on the street, seniors who are forced to choose between their medications or grocery, or kids who are living below poverty line, then to me only some of us are living in the best of times.


You're definitely making a case that public education isn't in the best of times, ill give you that.
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Nov 3 2021 08:07am
Quote (SBD @ Nov 3 2021 07:06am)
You're definitely making a case that public education isn't in the best of times, ill give you that.


I am sorry that I hurt your feelings.
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