It's fine to say "I think McConnel is fine being a hypocrit", that's an opinion, but it is a fact here that he said one thing in 2016 and directly went against that same thing in 2020. That much is not disputable, and that's how I know you're a partisan hack who cares about feels more than facts.

Instead of staying on topic you are trying to shift it to my personal opinion because you know you're wrong. Stay small kid.

that user doesn’t understand history. He doesn’t even know which party has and had a majority in the senate and he got intellectually shredded by someone who thinks the earth is flat. little fella thor only understands simple equations. he thinks robert byrd (D) was a good guy lmao

inb4 some repressed frustrated homophobic comment from said little fella

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I think it's easy to feel that way right now, but the facts are what they are.

Imo it'd be wiser to wait, but they also have a role to fill in this scenario and it's hard to blame them for doing their job even if you hate their politics

McConnel's statements from 2016 are easily available. His stance was no-vote was justified because voters voted in a Republican Senate to stymie a lame duck president during his last 2 years in office.

AKA he felt that by voting in the Republican Majority senate, voters had given a mandate that the Senate should NOT vote on filling the seat based on an Obama nomination.

That reasoning, that by voting in a Republican Majority senate, voters have given a mandate directly points that they Senate DOES need to vote on whoever Trump's nominee is.

Again, you claim to care about facts, but you ignore them and post repetitive stupidity justifying how you should get your way.

Your posts are entirely about your personal opinion. If you want to claim what McConnel and the Republican majority senate did in 2016 was wrong, feel free. I've already stated clearly I may even agree with you. But to claim that promptly voting on any Trump nominee is hypocritical based on the reasoning given for the actions of 2016 is not only false, it's intentionally false. You are not only being hypocritical, you are lying.

Anything else, or you done?

The people didn't vote Republican though. Based on voting numbers, more Americans wanted a Democrat in office, and if such a deferral were to be made, to then also nominate a justice.

is there some contingency where if a president wins the election but loses the popular vote - they are obligated to nominate a judge from across the aisle?

What are you even talking about? The people voted in a republican majority senate. That's why Garland did not get a vote in 2016. The people voted in the current majority republican senate, which is why Democrats are shitting themselves over the entire issue.

Who the President is makes no difference whatsoever in this case. Obama made a nomination, as he is Constitutionally mandated to do. Trump will as well. He literally has to. Failure to fulfill this basic Constitutional obligation is grounds for impeachment.

A POTUS making a nomination is their literal job, as set down by the Constitution of the United States of America. They do not "appoint", however. The appointment is based on a voted confirmation of the nominee by the Senate. Therefore, at the end of the day, it is the SENATE, not the POTUS, who ultimately determines who sits in SCOTUS.

And the SENATE was mandated REPUBLICAN by the vote of the people.

You can take your whole "But Trump lost by 2 million votes... Until you remove California, in which case he won the popular by 1.5 million votes" argument and shove it up your ass. It has NOTHING whatsoever to do with the Senate's choice to vote or defer on a SCOTUS seat.

No, but we have the very silly Electoral College that allows people to become President despite less Americans voting for them. It's a really antiquated system that trivializes much of our election process, particularly in Winner Take All States.

ah electoral college hater / denier

all good, carry on, i'm not getting into that again hehe

(it's tiresome, and i'm not american, so i generally yield to anyone who actually votes in america)

This post was edited by proccy on Sep 24 2020 10:46pm

But if we were truly care about the will of 2016 voters, then we'd be lead to believe that Trump not only becoming President but also therefore making a nomination/appointment is something that the people did not want.