Yeah, the memory-holing surrounding the facts of Russiagate is hilarious to watch. Mueller didn't find a conspiracy, therefore, the blatant corruption and attempts to obstruct the investigation never happened.



That's not what happened though. I'm not aware of any MSM reporting that ever claimed Trump was a Russian asset. If you have seen that, please post it here.

Anyone who followed Russiagate closely already knew most of the information in the report, because journalists uncovered it. But since pundits speculated that all the smoke had fire behind it, we're supposed to just stick our heads in the sand with every Trump scandal?

It seems your position is the exact opposite of "orange man bad all the time", which is that any scandal the Democrats and media focuses on isn't real, and doesn't matter.

Also, can I just note. The Trump Zelensky call was released by the White House. The whistle blower complaint was released by the White House, and has been largely corroborated. These opening statements coming out are from officials that Trump appointed. We don't have to trust anonymous sources on this... it's all right there in front of us.

This post was edited by IceMage on Oct 26 2019 02:30am

This is the tip of the iceberg, but I really couldn't be bothered to search for more than 3 minutes.

"Trump is a Russian asset" was a relatively common conspiracy routinely floated on mainstream news sites.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/videos/politics/2019/01/14/trump-putin-russia-relationship-max-boot-intv-nr-vpx.cnn

https:/https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna984911/www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/02/19/politics/andrew-mccabe-trump-law-enforcement/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/11/us/politics/fbi-trump-russia-inquiry.html

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/trump-acting-like-russian-asset-experts-say-2018-7

‘russiagate’ flopped so the lefties and never trumpers are denying that it was heavily pushed by the media and (D) party for 3 years

Some variation of that statement was the norm for the media for many years. Various type of innuendo was always pushed in the msm suggesting he was guilty.

A weak American sovereign is objectively good for Russia though. They are aggressively exploiting this weakness while it exists.

This post was edited by Skinned on Oct 26 2019 09:25am

cry.. fake news keep coming up with random excuses as to why is a pos person and leader

Nothing you posted is a journalist making a claim that Trump is a Russian asset. It's pundits and national security professionals pointing out how Trump's rhetoric and behavior benefits Russia, and how that might be an indication that he's a Russian asset. And it's also an article about how Trump's behavior was so wild and suspicious that the FBI opened a counter-intelligence investigation into him.

There's a difference between journalists and pundits. I don't know why people can't understand that.

You asked for MSM reporting on Trump being a Russian asset, I provided that. Let's not shift the goalposts now.

When someone mentions Biden and his son's overachieving job resume, we're told clearly by the station's journalists that any aspersion of wrongdoing is "false". When someone claims that the president is literally a Russian spy, they're given hours of serious coverage on TV.

I think of reporting as journalism, not punditry. And that's clearly what ofthevoid was referring to by talking about anonymous sources.

If you want to argue that the media as a whole should've been more measured and cautious with the speculation over Trump and Russia, that's a reasonable position. But there's a long list I could give you of rhetoric and behavior by Trump that looked very suspicious. I'm still not confident that Trump isn't compromised in some way by Russia.

this post makes no sense. ease up on the roided out rage posts



goalposts always shift for the losers

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