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Dec 7 2017 04:54pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 7 2017 04:49pm)
Is there any sort of logic or evidence behind this or are we hysterically and uncritically running with democrat talking points?


What is the mathematical variable for "piece of shit" and "ruin"? Do i have to carry the one?
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Dec 7 2017 04:57pm
moderate broad tax cuts

=

"Armageddon!"
middle class will be ruined!
'Its a fkn coup!'
"america died tonight"
tax cuts are rape
“Is there any going back after this #TaxBillScam? To America? Does it matter now if Trump is impeached? There’s no America now. Not the one we knew. Sorry, feeling real despair this morning"

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Good to see Cam blindly defending literally everything Republicans do that comes up on the forum.

Gotta keep that Libertarian title. It's in no way a ploy to seem objective. Not at all.
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Dec 7 2017 04:58pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 7 2017 04:57pm)
moderate broad tax cuts

=

"Armageddon!"
middle class will be ruined!
'Its a fkn coup!'
"america died tonight"
tax cuts are rape
“Is there any going back after this #TaxBillScam? To America? Does it matter now if Trump is impeached? There’s no America now. Not the one we knew. Sorry, feeling real despair this morning"

I need some more hot takes to add to the collection.


to credit them, they did reduce the definition of rape down to almost nothing to lessen the blow of that statement. Tax cuts might not be rape, but they sure can be compared to a drunken hook up u later regret.
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Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 7 2017 05:57pm)
Good to see Cam blindly defending literally everything Republicans do that comes up on the forum.

Gotta keep that Libertarian title. It's in no way a ploy to seem objective. Not at all.


There is no blindly defending here. I asked for logic and evidence. Doomsday ignorant bullshit gets criticized and laughed at.
If someone wants to point out a particular clause that i shouldn't be happy with as a libertarian i'm all ears.

You might be shocked to find out that libertarians are not for higher taxes
Libertarians also tend to not be particularly fond of equating tax cuts to the literal end of the world.

'blindly defending!!!11" = fallacious low IQ whining because i disagree with leftists again

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Dec 7 2017 05:03pm
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There is no blindly defending here. I asked for logic and evidence. Doomsday ignorant bullshit gets criticized and laughed at.
If someone wants to point out a particular clause that i shouldn't be happy with as a libertarian i'm all ears.

You might be shocked to find out that libertarians are not for higher taxes
Libertarians also tend to not be particularly fond of equating tax cuts to the literal end of the world.

'blindly defending!!!11" = fallacious low IQ whining because i disagree with leftists again


i'm curious what your liberal stances are. Vaguely pro pot? Anti police violence on the default side of liberals?

honest question.
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i'm curious what your liberal stances are. Vaguely pro pot? Anti police violence on the default side of liberals?

honest question.


What sense of the word liberal are you asking about? Whats the platform to be compared against?
The term has been reused and repurposed throughout the years
There is tons of overlap with classical liberalism.

I'm radically against prohibition and for legalization, not 'vaguely' pro pot.
yes very against police abuse, and against the enforcement of victimless 'crimes', against CAF, etc.

I would imagine there is overlap on a less interventionist foreign policy.

Not much overlap with the neomarxist authoritarian type of 'liberal' tho

This post was edited by cambovenzi on Dec 7 2017 05:24pm
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Quote (cambovenzi @ Dec 7 2017 05:21pm)
What sense of the word liberal are you asking about? Whats the platform to be compared against?
The term has been reused and repurposed throughout the years
There is tons of overlap with classical liberalism.

I'm radically against prohibition and for legalization, not 'vaguely' pro pot.
yes very against police abuse, and against the enforcement of victimless 'crimes', against CAF, etc.

Not much overlap with the neomarxist authoritarian type of 'liberal' tho


in my head i thought you were a non-smoker in favor of legalization, that was the "vague" bit rather than meaning noncommittal.

the cop bit, especially with victim-less crime enforcement was a gimme point for any libertarian id say. i have yet to hear a libertarian argument for tough on crime enforcement (as compared to say the split over abortion).

Mainly though, i don't consider you a shill for republicans, i consider you a republican who justifies your positions based on the NAP. I know u hated johnson and are not a fan of most socially focused libertarians. I think this exemplifies one of the issues libertarians have though, many libertarians are just republicans with a principle driven ideology rather than a religious one or one that blindly follows doctrines. Which leaves behind the left leaners, and come time to vote neither of the groups can count on each other to vote for the party like either of the big 2 parties can.

This post was edited by thesnipa on Dec 7 2017 05:29pm
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Dec 7 2017 05:32pm
this will definitely lead to the apocalypse
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this will definitely lead to the apocalypse


ya no doubt as i put my tinfoil hat on

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