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Jul 25 2016 01:34am
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told him he was retarded

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All of these things matter very much.


they apparently do to trump supporters

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Jul 25 2016 01:36am
"Leaked DNC Documents Show Plans To Reward Big Donors With Federal Appointments"

Source: http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/24/leaked-dnc-documents-show-plans-to-reward-big-donors-with-federal-appointments/

More great news coming out for the Democratic Party on the eve of the Democratic Convention.

What a fair and honest political party. /s



But honestly, this is really bad:

18 U.S.C. § 599
"Whoever, being a candidate, directly or indirectly promises or pledges the appointment, or the use of his influence or support for the appointment of any person to any public or private position or employment, for the purpose of procuring support in his candidacy shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both."

Source: http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter29&edition=prelim

Email: https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20352



But screw the rules, right, guys?
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Jul 25 2016 01:37am
It's a major political party, what did you think they were doing? Playing fair?!? I really am LOL'ing.
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Jul 25 2016 01:39am
Not seeing how the spreadsheet is a big deal at all. It's not like anyone's buying their way onto the list, it's just a suggested list of appointments that also happen to be donors.

Looks like the Daily Caller doing its usual dance. :(
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Jul 25 2016 01:50am
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Not seeing how the spreadsheet is a big deal at all. It's not like anyone's buying their way onto the list, it's just a suggested list of appointments that also happen to be donors.

Looks like the Daily Caller doing its usual dance. :(


Of course you don't see anything wrong with it.

Nothing to see here! Don't mind this blatant corruption!

As Democrats we gotta take the loss on this one. Our party fucked up and we gotta own up to it and demand better.

Hell, as Americans we should be pissed at this shit. Our major political parties are a trainwreck.

Quote (Azrad @ 25 Jul 2016 02:37)
It's a major political party, what did you think they were doing? Playing fair?!? I really am LOL'ing.


I will say it for the one hundreth time but as long as we expect corruption from our government, leadership, and political bodies than corruption is what we deserve.

Unless we want corruption to become our new normal, we must demand our government, leadership, and political bodies to be more honest and transparent.

I don't think it's healthy for a country to accept a certain baseline of corruption in politics or government as normal.

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Of course you don't see anything wrong with it.

Nothing to see here! Don't mind this blatant corruption!

As Democrats we gotta take the loss on this one. Our party fucked up and we gotta own up to it and demand better.

Hell, as Americans we should be pissed at this shit. Our major political parties are a trainwreck.


It's blatant corruption for a political party to be the ones who suggest appointments?

That's not quid pro quo, that's just literally how the world works. The people who work closely with the party are the ones who get suggested for nominations. Yes, money is usually part of that process, but it wouldn't necessarily have to be. It's just that there aren't many people who simply work their way through the ranks without donating, especially since the maximum donations are pretty relatively small for a private individual.
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It's blatant corruption for a political party to be the ones who suggest appointments?

That's not quid pro quo, that's just literally how the world works. The people who work closely with the party are the ones who get suggested for nominations. Yes, money is usually part of that process, but it wouldn't necessarily have to be. It's just that there aren't many people who simply work their way through the ranks without donating, especially since the maximum donations are pretty relatively small for a private individual.


18 U.S. Code § 600 - Promise of employment or other benefit for political activity:

"Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment, position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit, provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of Congress, or any special consideration in obtaining any such benefit, to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any political activity or for the support of or opposition to any candidate or any political party in connection with any general or special election to any political office, or in connection with any primary election or political convention or caucus held to select candidates for any political office, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."

http://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/part1/chapter29&edition=prelim
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18 U.S. Code § 600 - Promise of employment or other benefit for political activity:

"Whoever, directly or indirectly, promises any employment, position, compensation, contract, appointment, or other benefit, provided for or made possible in whole or in part by any Act of Congress, or any special consideration in obtaining any such benefit, to any person as consideration, favor, or reward for any political activity or for the support of or opposition to any candidate or any political party in connection with any general or special election to any political office, or in connection with any primary election or political convention or caucus held to select candidates for any political office, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both."


And being someone who's prominent in the party and thus being suggested for a nomination is a very big different from a quid pro quo. I literally used those exact fucking words. Jesus fucking Christ, go back, read what I said, and shove this insulting bullshit up your ass sideways, child.
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And being someone who's prominent in the party and thus being suggested for a nomination is a very big different from a quid pro quo. I literally used those exact fucking words. Jesus fucking Christ, go back, read what I said, and shove this insulting bullshit up your ass sideways, child.


Hmm...I wonder what role a donor could have in a quid pro quo for a federal appointment...could it involve giving money at some point or something?

Also, you can throw every personal insult at me in the book, but so far in this thread you have:

1) Recommended that the DNC abolish any rules of impartiality in future presidential nominations

2) Fail to see anything wrong with DNC party officials potentially violating federal statutes by nominating donors for various federal appointments

And I am a child? I thought it was adults that had respect for rules?
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Jul 25 2016 02:24am
Quote (ThatAlex @ 25 Jul 2016 00:21)
Hmm...I wonder what role a donor could have in a quid pro quo for a federal appointment...could it involve giving money at some point or something?

Also, you can throw every personal insult at me in the book, but so far in this thread you have:

1) Recommended that the DNC abolish any rules of impartiality in future presidential nominations

2) Fail to see anything wrong with DNC party officials potentially violating federal statutes by nominating donors for various federal appointments

And I am a child? I thought it was adults that had respect for rules?


I'm fine with political parties not having to be nice to independents who want to run under their banner and I disagree with you on an point that you're acting like a dick and trying to condescend to me about, still.
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