American "Long pork" is to fatty though, and there's not enough meat on those vegans bones to make it worthwhile.

...I'm guessing you don't watch any cable TV ? Almost every major series has characters that smoke and I'm not aware of any real brouhaha being raised over it .

yea, but I will eat the overpopulated ones

This does raise another concerning problem for our future. We humans are depleting the food resources in the Oceans at an alarming level that could become a global crisis by 2050. I've always felt fishermen are their own worst enemy. Just as we humans are our own worst enemy by the sheer weight of our numbers. But hey, let's keep importing more and more people, shall we, because we've got to replace all these baby boomer fossils with baby factories because apparently 320 million people still isn't enough.

yet we've gone the other way with Melissa McCarthy and Lena Dunham

This post was edited by Goomshill on Mar 21 2016 02:36pm

i think you'd be unhappy to find that the supply acquired through just that is not even remotely large enough to satisfy the demand of modern carnists, so you'd probably end up having to pay a ludicrous amount or people would have black market animal farming

it's the ideology itself that would need to change

Can proudly say I don't regularly watch TV. Only shows I follow are Game of Thrones, those Science/Discovery channels, and the occasional movie on Cinemax or HBO. The Walking Dead sucks, by the way; it's just long, drawn-out, melodramatic hoopla over basic survival instinct shit that most people wouldn't think twice about. Also I hate slow zombies. But that's just me.

markets demand growth bruh, and infinite growth is impossible with finite resources, and the prospect of there being anything more that we can use than what we've got on this green earth is essential zero
this means that markets cannot last forever for our stay on this planet

I only meant for myself. I don't think you could feed a single major city if you took all the meat from animals killed due to overpopulating in the entire country.

Hopefully overfishing is something that will only be a 3rd world issue in 50 years. Fisheries agriculture is on the rise, especially in the Midwest where fish is rather expensive and the great lakes are a concern for overfishing. What is really promising are the number of hobbyist fisheries that are popping up in relatively small space. Here is an article that somewhat illustrates my point:

http://offgridsurvivalguru.com/2016/03/16/1-million-pounds-food-10000-fish-500-yards-compost-3-acres-land/


That said wild tuna is something that really saddens me. I think in 100 years people will look at 20th century tuna consumers in the same light as 17th-18th century passenger pigeon consumers. I think they will wonder in amazement how we could continue to eat them as they dwindled and eventually died out.