Quote (duffman316 @ Feb 11 2015 11:11am)
why do you keep battling main stream science and look for extremist weirdos that say whatever you want them to say and point to that as solid evidence of anything
Because it's been shown at least a dozen times he doesn't read for comprehension, just for confirmation. If he had even just read the conclusion he would have seen this.
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Conclusions We attribute the decline in influenza-related mortality among people aged 65 to 74 years in the decade after the 1968 pandemic to the acquisition of immunity to the emerging A(H3N2) virus. We could not correlate increasing vaccination coverage after 1980 with declining mortality rates in any age group. Because fewer than 10% of all winter deaths were attributable to influenza in any season, we conclude that observational studies substantially overestimate vaccination benefit.
and known the study being quoted didn't conclude an increase in mortality due to vaccines, only that vaccination isn't as effective as claimed.
Though this study is a good first-look, it's not anything conclusive because it doesn't account for the variation in interactivity the flu can have from year to year, and doesn't take into account that flu shots are basically a "best guess" to counteract the strongest of several strains of flu which will be floating around in any given year.
Funny thing is, he will dismiss anything with "meta analysis" in the title outright, but when this is in the conclusion
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Accurate assessment of the seasonal impact of influenza on mortality is a difficult task. The diagnosis of influenza virus infection is rarely confirmed in the laboratory, and influenza infection is often cleared before onset of the secondary complications that actually cause a patient’s death.1,2 Consequently, influenza-related mortality must be determined indirectly, using statistical models that estimate the winter-seasonal excess of either pneumonia and influenza (P&I) or all-cause mortality above a baseline of expected mortality (Figure 1).3- 8 The study of trends in influenza-related mortality over time is further complicated both by substantial season-to-season variation in the number of deaths—0 to 70 000 since 19687,8 —and by the fact that mortality is much higher in seasons dominated by influenza A(H3N2) viruses than in seasons dominated by influenza B and A(H1N1) viruses.5
he doesn't bat an eye, when they're telling you what complicates the study.
This post was edited by Thor123422 on Feb 11 2015 12:14pm
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