d2jsp
Log InRegister
d2jsp Forums > Off-Topic > General Chat > Political & Religious Debate > What Religion Actually Does To People - Part One > Childhood Indoctrination Is Child Abuse
Prev1192021222341Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll
Member
Posts: 40,833
Joined: Sep 17 2011
Gold: 0.00
Jan 23 2015 11:09pm
Quote (kyle_lowry2 @ 23 Jan 2015 21:11)
''I am freeing man from a false vision called conscience and morality. The ten commandments have lost their validity. Conscience is a Jewish invention. The heaviest blow which struck humanity was Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are the inventions of the Jew. ''

yea he was christian right


At the very least he was a deist and his ideology was born out of catholicism of the time. But that's irrelevant.

Quote (IceMage @ 23 Jan 2015 20:43)
No thanks, I'll continue to believe in the truth.


I agree. I want to believe the truth as well. I just can't see any rational reason to assert that any particular sect of christianity preaches the truth. If you can give me one I'm all ears.

This post was edited by Scaly on Jan 23 2015 11:10pm
Member
Posts: 35,291
Joined: Aug 17 2004
Gold: 12,730.67
Jan 23 2015 11:12pm
Quote (Scaly @ Jan 23 2015 09:09pm)
At the very least he was a deist and his ideology was born out of catholicism of the time. But that's irrelevant.



I agree. I want to believe the truth as well. I just can't see any rational reason to assert that any particular sect of christianity preaches the truth. If you can give me one I'm all ears.


I highly doubt that. Even if God gave you undeniable proof that he existed, you've said in the past that you'd spit in his face (figuratively) because he doesn't agree with your life style.
Member
Posts: 73,267
Joined: Dec 16 2011
Gold: 277,740.50
Jan 23 2015 11:24pm
Quote (thundercock @ Jan 24 2015 01:12am)
I highly doubt that. Even if God gave you undeniable proof that he existed, you've said in the past that you'd spit in his face (figuratively) because he doesn't agree with your life style.



The only undeniable proof that God gave is that he his not willing to give a undeniable proof of his existence.

Member
Posts: 40,833
Joined: Sep 17 2011
Gold: 0.00
Jan 23 2015 11:31pm
Quote (thundercock @ 24 Jan 2015 05:12)
I highly doubt that. Even if God gave you undeniable proof that he existed, you've said in the past that you'd spit in his face (figuratively) because he doesn't agree with your life style.


That doesn't mean I'd not believe.

I also said I don't think he is worthy of worship for other reasons. Biblically the god of Abraham is an extremely immoral god - he commits genocide at least three times and commands others commit it even more often, he sanctions slavery, he tells men rape the women they want to marry. The list goes on. His disapproval of homosexuality (which is what I assume you mean by 'my lifestyle' even though I'm in a hetero monogamous relationship) is one of the least of the reasons I would hesitate to worship such an immoral deity.

But if you could give me a rational justification for belief in such a deity then I would grant you it.

This post was edited by Scaly on Jan 23 2015 11:44pm
Member
Posts: 35,291
Joined: Aug 17 2004
Gold: 12,730.67
Jan 24 2015 12:07am
Quote (Scaly @ Jan 23 2015 09:31pm)
That doesn't mean I'd not believe.

I also said I don't think he is worthy of worship for other reasons. Biblically the god of Abraham is an extremely immoral god - he commits genocide at least three times and commands others commit it even more often, he sanctions slavery, he tells men rape the women they want to marry. The list goes on. His disapproval of homosexuality (which is what I assume you mean by 'my lifestyle' even though I'm in a hetero monogamous relationship) is one of the least of the reasons I would hesitate to worship such an immoral deity.

But if you could give me a rational justification for belief in such a deity then I would grant you it.


Who are you trying to kid..
Member
Posts: 40,833
Joined: Sep 17 2011
Gold: 0.00
Jan 24 2015 01:12am
Quote (thundercock @ 24 Jan 2015 06:07)
Who are you trying to kid..


My point exactly. See how you resort to mockery and deflection when you have no rational answers?
Member
Posts: 32,208
Joined: Nov 27 2010
Gold: 159.02
Jan 24 2015 01:30am
agreed with scaly for the most part. the scripture classes i took in public school were pretty gnarly tbh and they pretty much served to make us behave
Member
Posts: 40,833
Joined: Sep 17 2011
Gold: 0.00
Jan 24 2015 02:08am
Quote (Devil_kin @ 24 Jan 2015 07:30)
agreed with scaly for the most part. the scripture classes i took in public school were pretty gnarly tbh and they pretty much served to make us behave


Are you an atheist now or are you still religious? No follow up just curious.
Member
Posts: 32,208
Joined: Nov 27 2010
Gold: 159.02
Jan 24 2015 02:13am
Quote (Scaly @ 24 Jan 2015 02:08)
Are you an atheist now or are you still religious? No follow up just curious.


atheist but i don't wear fedoras and worship pop science mascots
Member
Posts: 40,833
Joined: Sep 17 2011
Gold: 0.00
Jan 24 2015 02:22am
Quote (Devil_kin @ 24 Jan 2015 08:13)
atheist but i don't wear fedoras and worship pop science mascots


Most atheists don't...
Go Back To Political & Religious Debate Topic List
Prev1192021222341Next
Add Reply New Topic New Poll