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Jul 8 2014 01:06am
Quote (inkanddagger @ 8 Jul 2014 06:58)
Israel ends apartheid.


It's not my problem you refuse to understand that there are Arabs who lives in the state of israel, Arabs who lives under Palestinian authority and Arabs who live under Hamas.

saying end it's apartheid is just wrong.
It's simply not the way to describe the issue we have here.

And again what is the solution you suggest cause ending something that never happened is not possible.

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a nice start would be if israel would remove all illegal settlements from the occupied territories
any move towards that would immediately improve israel's credibility

How is it illegal? Who did we took it from?
Why was it not a problem when we did peace with Jordan? How was it not a problem when we did peace with Egypt?
We prove we'll do everything for peace... We gave back Sinai an area bigger then israel itself and with oil.
What did the Palestinian did for peace? 13 years or rockets?

Quote (brmv @ 8 Jul 2014 06:02)
methinks you don't really know what the situation is
the israeli settlements in the occupied territories are a security risk
btw, if you ask israelis about the rockets from hamas the majority will just laugh at them (personal knowledge)


Laughing at the rockets?
Are you retarded?
Running to a shelter for 13 years looks funny to you...
Idiot!

Quote (brmv @ 8 Jul 2014 08:43)
... key factor to the creation and growth of fundamentalist islamist terrorism

nb: if the west bank were such a big security asset, why build a fence?


Cause while this area is defendable from an Army they send their people to commit sucide or shoot at civilians with guns.


This post was edited by Many_Names on Jul 8 2014 01:23am
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Jul 8 2014 01:14am
Those kids will never get..... ahead..... in life taking risks like that.
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Jul 8 2014 10:14am
Quote (Many_Names @ Jul 8 2014 12:06am)
It's not my problem you refuse to understand that there are Arabs who lives in the state of israel, Arabs who lives under Palestinian authority and Arabs who live under Hamas.

saying end it's apartheid is just wrong.
It's simply not the way to describe the issue we have here.

And again what is the solution you suggest cause ending something that never happened is not possible.


How is it illegal? Who did we took it from?
Why was it not a problem when we did peace with Jordan? How was it not a problem when we did peace with Egypt?
We prove we'll do everything for peace... We gave back Sinai an area bigger then israel itself and with oil.
What did the Palestinian did for peace? 13 years or rockets?



Laughing at the rockets?
Are you retarded?
Running to a shelter for 13 years looks funny to you...
Idiot!



Cause while this area is defendable from an Army  they send their people to commit sucide or shoot at civilians with guns.


Then how do you describe it, when your minority holds the political majority and rips land away from others and forces them into ghettos?

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Jul 8 2014 10:21am
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Jul 8 2014 10:30am
Simple we are the majority...
There are over 6 million Jews in israel and little over a million Arabs. Gaza is not israel... The West Bank have around 2 million some people say less some say abit more...
So even with them they won't have majority... Even if we add Gaza they won't be majority so please... If you say something make sure it's correct.
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Jul 8 2014 12:11pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Jul 8 2014 11:30am)
Simple we are the majority...
There are over 6 million Jews in israel and little over a million Arabs. Gaza is not israel... The West Bank have around 2 million some people say less some say abit more...
So even with them they won't have majority... Even if we add Gaza they won't be majority so please... If you say something make sure it's correct.


When Israel gains Gaza and West Bank you probably mean ....starving them out and blocking medical supplies through blockade seems to be working well.

Major moral problem you're facing. Like the US and the slavery-system so many years ago. Hopefully it doesn't require a civil war to rectify like it did us.

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Jul 8 2014 01:29pm
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When Israel gains Gaza and West Bank you probably mean ....starving them out  and blocking medical supplies through blockade seems to be working well.

Major moral problem you're facing.  Like the US and the slavery-system so many years ago.  Hopefully it doesn't require a civil war to rectify like it did us.


We supply electricity, water, medical aid and more don't forget both Gaza and West Bank have borders with their Arab countries Jordan and Egypt...

And now when I have to sit in a shelter waiting for the missile to fall hopefully not on my head I can say fuck you!
And your hypocrisy!
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Jul 8 2014 01:39pm
Quote (Many_Names @ Jul 8 2014 02:29pm)
We supply electricity, water, medical aid and more don't forget both Gaza and West Bank have borders with their Arab countries Jordan and Egypt...

And now when I have to sit in a shelter waiting for the missile to fall hopefully not on my head I can say fuck you!
And your hypocrisy!


I would be in a tank.

I'm not envious of the Israeli people at the moment. But I'm not envious of the Arabs in Palestine either.

This post was edited by Skinned on Jul 8 2014 01:41pm
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Jul 8 2014 02:20pm
most of jsp members hates anything related to Israel. this section of the forum is twisted as it can get really.
im Israeli, and proud to be.

most Israeli people are normal people that wanna go to work, come home get laid and live peacefully.
most of the Arabs in the world also are peaceful people.

i am disgusted by the Israeli terrorists that killed the innocent Palestinian boy.
i am disgusted by the Palestinians terrorists that kidnapped and killed 3 innocents Israelis.

did any of you ever wonder what would happen to Gaza if they bombed Russia for years constantly ? or America ?
ever looked at the world map ? we are a tiny little worm surrounded by Arab countries from each direction.
this is our country. we protect our people the best we can. none of you in real life and in real situation would stay here
over 10 mins when shit gets warmer, big talkers.

oh and last thing, almost forgot..

lets see in 40-60 years when Europe will be full of Muslims. many of them born and raised to
be radical. maybe than your eyes will be wide open, some people already woke up.. but most of you
are plain ignorant blaming Israel to be the bully. so nope, we are not the bully.. just the small, proud, democratic country
in the middle east that will know how to handle ourselves when Europe will see darker days.
if you only just knew what i know.. meh doesn't matter.. haters will always hate.

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Jul 8 2014 02:31pm
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most of jsp members hates anything related to Israel. this section of the forum is twisted as it can get really.
im Israeli, and proud to be.

most Israeli people are normal people that wanna go to work, come home get laid and live peacefully.
most of the Arabs in the world also are peaceful people.

i am disgusted by the Israeli terrorists that killed the innocent Palestinian boy.
i am disgusted by the Palestinians terrorists that kidnapped and killed 3 innocents Israelis.

did any of you ever wonder what would happen to Gaza if they bombed Russia for years constantly ? or America ?
ever looked at the world map ? we are a tiny little worm surrounded by Arab countries from each direction.
this is our country. we protect our people the best we can. none of you in real life and in real situation would stay here
over 10 mins when shit gets warmer, big talkers.

oh and last thing, almost forgot..

lets see in 40-60 years when Europe will be full of Muslims. many of them born and raised to
be radical. maybe than your eyes will be wide open, some people already woke up.. but most of you
are plain ignorant blaming Israel to be the bully. so nope, we are not the bully.. just the small, proud, democratic country
in the middle east that will know how to handle ourselves when Europe will see darker days.
if you only just knew what i know.. meh doesn't matter.. haters will always hate
.


Can't forget some xenophobic stuff about how white Europe will become impure from the blood of Muslims as they impregnate our blond hair blue eyed daughters :lol:

As I see if Israel has a hard choice. It will either cease to be a democracy by continuing to disenfranchise Arabs living in the nation (over 20% of the population), cease to be a Jewish state by franchising its Arab citizens, or it will go back to the legal 1967 borders. I don't see how this situation can ever come to a satisfactory result without one of those things giving.
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Jul 8 2014 02:36pm
id just as soon see one country conquer the other and be done with it. i dont necessarily care which. but one of them has US aid and lots of war toys given to them.
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