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Maybe if your governor was as concerned with wild hogs as he is roofers you wouldnt need an AR to collect bacon.
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It's not a claim that you can backup though, and you continue to not back it up.

>It's common sense.
>I just see it with my eyeballs.

This is why people actually have to earn a degree, undergo supervision, and maintain a license to do mental health work, not simply have an opinion informed by YouTube videos.


My friend in jesus I just gave you another example backing it up in that post
Its okay, ai responses get similarly hyperopic
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Feb 13 2024 03:17pm
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Why don't you address your first argument, that it is a mental illness? I'll wait.

You rejected ofthevoid's claim that gender ideology has hijacked and changed science for political activism, asking for evidence to back up this claim. I provided this evidence. Do you concede this particlar point, yes or no?



Regarding the mental illness point: just to reiterate: I do not say that being transgender is a mental illness in and off itself, I'm merely saying that mental health issues are significantly more common among this group than among the general population. This, too, is common knowledge at this point. Someone with your educational and professional background should be well aware of that. But if you want to play silly games and insist on sources, fine:

A meta study from 2016 finding that "studies since 2011 have shown that transgender youth have higher rates of depression, suicidality and self-harm, and eating disorders when compared with their peers":
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1054139X1630146X

And if you want something more recent, how about this one from 2022:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36151828/
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Several lines of evidence indicate the prevalence of mental health disorders in Transgender (TG) individuals is higher than that of cisgender individuals or the general population. In this systematic review, we aim to propose a summary of some of the most significant research investigating mental health disorders' prevalence among this population.
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Our findings coincide with existing research, which indicates TG individuals do experience a higher prevalence of mental health disorders than that of the general population or cisgender individuals.

Are you satisfied now, or do you need further evidence and source material?

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Feb 13 2024 03:18pm
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My friend in jesus I just gave you another example backing it up in that post
Its okay, ai responses get similarly hyperopic


Feel free to highlight said example, as I'm not seeing any argument that backs up your claim that being transgender is a mental illness.

And, given that you have an affinity for playing armchair psychologist, I welcome your illustrious insight into what effective mental health treatment would look like under Goom's world given this mental illness. I'll wait.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Feb 13 2024 01:17pm)
You rejected ofthevoid's claim that gender ideology has hijacked and changed science for political activism, asking for evidence to back up this claim. I provided this evidence. Do you concede this particlar point, yes or no?



Regarding the mental illness point: just to reiterate: I do not say that being transgender is a mental illness in and off itself, I'm merely saying that mental health issues are significantly more common among this group than among the general population. This, too, is common knowledge at this point. Someone with your educational and professional background should be well aware of that. But if you want to play silly games and insist on sources, fine:

A meta study from 2016 finding that "studies since 2011 have shown that transgender youth have higher rates of depression, suicidality and self-harm, and eating disorders when compared with their peers":
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1054139X1630146X

And if you want something more recent, how about this one from 2022:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36151828/



Are you satisfied now, or do you need further evidence and source material?


Having to dissect this for you assholes really grates me. You all want to make this world significantly more difficult for a vulnerable population because you hate their very existence. Y'all will frequently cite increased rates of adverse lived experiences, yet have zero insight into WHY those rates are elevated. It's because of assholes like yourself.
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Feel free to highlight said example, as I'm not seeing any argument that backs up your claim that being transgender is a mental illness.

And, given that you have an affinity for playing armchair psychologist, I welcome your illustrious insight into what effective mental health treatment would look like under Goom's world. I'll wait.


Maybe I haven't chatted with enough AIs but I don't think they wildly swing from one thread to another and mistake responses between them. If I ask chat gpt how to get to the grocery store and what type of pickle I need for my recipe, its not going to send me to a pickle cannery in cincinnati

In goomshill's world psychiatry would start with the oath of "First, do no harm" and we'd have to stop surgically and chemically mutilating children on a hunch
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Feb 13 2024 03:22pm
A group of people with a 41% suicide rate, are clearly mentally unstable. I don't blame them though, I blame the "professionals" (trust the science) that enabled them and groomed them into the monsters that they become. Society has utterly failed these kids and it wont stop till the people responsible for this crime are swinging from lamp posts
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Feb 13 2024 03:24pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 13 2024 01:21pm)
Maybe I haven't chatted with enough AIs but I don't think they wildly swing from one thread to another and mistake responses between them. If I ask chat gpt how to get to the grocery store and what type of pickle I need for my recipe, its not going to send me to a pickle cannery in cincinnati

In goomshill's world psychiatry would start with the oath of "First, do no harm" and we'd have to stop surgically and chemically mutilating children on a hunch


This is prime example why you're out of your depth. These decisions are not made based off a "hunch". It's made off of countless amounts of research, and a history in which we regarded transgender people will the same level of venom that you do, and subsequently formed treatment approaches that not only DID NOT WORK but made their outcomes significantly worse. You can regard me as an AI-level response all you want, but you are supremely ignorant on this topic.
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 13 2024 03:17pm)
Feel free to highlight said example, as I'm not seeing any argument that backs up your claim that being transgender is a mental illness.

And, given that you have an affinity for playing armchair psychologist, I welcome your illustrious insight into what effective mental health treatment would look like under Goom's world given this mental illness. I'll wait.


I hardly have a dog in this fight, but isnt the simple fact that it was classified as a mental illness before it was declassified qualify as SOME evidence?

i mean its not exactly logical to say "i see zero evidence to back the claim that pluto is a planet". some astronomers got semantic is all.
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 13 2024 03:19pm)
Having to dissect this for you assholes really grates me. You all want to make this world significantly more difficult for a vulnerable population because you hate their very existence. Y'all will frequently cite increased rates of adverse lived experiences, yet have zero insight into WHY those rates are elevated. It's because of assholes like yourself.


And this is precisely the kind of moral indignation and self righteousness shared by so many in academia who feel justified in enforcing their dogmatic authority and using DEI guidance and requirements to persecute and suppress any dissenting voices.
After all, any academics, regulators, doctors, bureaucrats who oppose the agenda are participating in a genocide of trans people and must be silenced, by violence if necessary.
And when one of those dissidents shows up to campus and a mob attacks his speech, we can be grateful knowing the folks in the mob and the professors who egged them on will be the ones supervising, the ones controlling who gets a degree, who gets a license


The difference is a degree of selfawareness. They know they've captured academia, they don't need to pretend otherwise. What's the point in achieving a victory if you don't get to gloat over it?
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