Quote (ferdia @ Feb 28 2023 12:12pm)

China is the enemy, we need to know what china is doing. the chinese fleet is no where near america, meanwhile the US has a fleet over by china. i mean the logic is so brain dead. its like you have to have an enemy, and if you dont have one, you make up one.

i will see if i can find my plausible US commentary on NS and repost in here.but seriously, undermining seymour hersh "hes old what does he know bla bla bla". whatever.

DONALD TRUMP will be the next US president because he will use the events of Nord Stream to sink Biden.

Quote (ferdia @ Feb 20 2023 11:44am)

From a Pro American Stand Point:

In the run up to the war there was a concern that Germany and Western Europe's resolve in supporting Ukraine would be put to the test if Russia "Weaponised" Energy. i.e. Russian gas is cheap, and Russia could simply blackmail europe into doing things europe would otherwise not do. Something like : "stop encroaching on us / stop supporting Ukraine / No Nato expansion". The Nord Stream 2 Pipeline should never have been built as it strengthed the dependance Europe would have on co-operating with Russia. This is not in US Interests, and from a US standpoint, is not in EU interests noting Russia and Putin are viewed with hostility.

Therefore, on balance of the evidence, cause and effect, etc, it is my view that the US blew up the Nord Stream 2 in order to firm European resolve to not negotiate or bow to Russian aggression. Ultimalty Ukraine is a soverign state and should be included in conversations re: Europe and it ill becomes Europe to in any way tacitly support Ukraine's destruction / partition, at the hands of Russia, therefore EU countries should (a) not have allowed this thing to be built in the first place and (b) not complain when the US blows it up and (c) If they still complain the US can give them some busines to make up for the loss.

Ultimately Russia has invaded Ukraine, this is not a special operation, it is a war, even though they still call it a special operation. It has been proven that Russia has commited war crimes and we do not know how far Putin will take this war. Will he attack other countries ? certainly he will undermine elections throughout Europe as he has done already for decades. We do not believe he will attack a Nato country and therefore it is recommended that more countries join Nato / or aspire to join Nato, ASAP.

there, how am I doing?

Quote (ferdia @ 28 Feb 2023 19:33)

Tommy, China does not want all the world, they just want their region. and might does not make right, no matter what country says it.

here is what I had said from a Pro US Standpoint re: Nord Stream 2.



I am no fan of Donald Trump, but he does not want the war in Ukraine. He appears to be alone in US politic's with this position (of the politicians that matter), and therefore this is an easy foil for him to use for his next presidential bid. The US will never state that they did this (blowing up NS2) as to do so would result in Biden being impeached.

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Feb 28 2023 11:38am)

even with his Anti China stance he doesn't want war with China either. He wants recognition , more money and acceptance and in the midst of all these he wants to bring manufacturing back to the US.

Quote (ferdia @ Feb 28 2023 12:33pm)

Tommy, China does not want all the world, they just want their region. and might does not make right, no matter what country says it.

here is what I had said from a Pro US Standpoint re: Nord Stream 2.

Quote (ferdia @ 28 Feb 2023 19:43)

who are you referring to ? the US wants war with China ok. Cold War/Trade War/War. pick one because its on the doorstep ok. not relevant to this topic however.

Quote (Tommyvv @ Feb 25 2023 07:31pm)

A Boycott of the USA is the only options.
Sanctions against the only aggressor.
Euro should leave NATO and join the east, to stop the global aggressor.
France is requested to aim nuclear facilities on the west.
ASML and China should work together to take the lead in militarily A.I.
The 95%world population should not tolerate this war-lust of the 5%kapitals.
China owns USA, and war industry is their only option to pay interest.
Dividing Europe to save the kapital-dollar.
Your demented leaders will backfire in your faces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjVyfsx4ZPA

Quote (Malopox @ 10 Apr 2023 01:00)

I mean let’s drill this down assuming evidence ever comes out:

1) “russkies did it” - means Germany/NATO countries might join in at the fun as this is an act of war against Germany and potential trigger for article 5 of NATO treaties. A bit of a dead end as Germany cannot not react and reacting means Russia will def defend with nukes. Not fun.

2) “yankees did it” - schism inside NATO with germany potentially leaving and US losing cred with NATO allies. Since US bankrolls NATO - dropping US means Germany will have to get militarized to protect against Russians going forward.

3) “ukrainans did it” - german support for ukraine wanes - eg supply route over land is blocked, with further eu support vetoed. Losing western support for Ukraine is a dead end. Putin will definitely win.

4) “uk / norwegians/ little men with funny names did it” - less damaging than US version, but still will distract western allies.

It seems that it’s in the massive benefit of NATO to control the narrative - eg given absence of access for Russians / abstaining from vote to invite international communities in on the fun (eg Chinese investigators).

Which theory does PARD like most?