Is your position that the death penalty is insane and every criminal can be rehabilitated? Have you read the facts about this guy and his past? Not just what he is accused of doing with the murders, but his criminal history? The rapes and drug dealing? The facts that are not disputed by him?

Do you claim to have more information than the juries involved in the case? Or more insight into the situation? How long have you been following the story? Months? Years?

There is a reason these sorts of things are decided in courts and not via online forums.

it should not take 10 years to appeal a sentance.



my position is crime must be punished. pick one, not both: death sentance / life sentance. 10 years (and more) is a life sentance in my book. ergo my position is he should be let go after 10 years, especially where he has evidenced good behaviour. im not here to fix american law, i am merely outlining that this case is an awful damnation of a broken justice system.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 7 2023 12:06pm

Some context

Are you serious, so 10 years is the max someone should spend in jail? Regardless of crime, or criminal history? And you consider that life imprisonment?

Look up why it takes so long to execute a prisoner in the US, it isn't part of the punishment, but part of the mechanism to fight unjust executions.

Look up people who have been exonerated, you would commit them all to death?

Again, how long have you been following it? I have a sneaking suspicion you have read maybe one or two articles about this and made up your mind.

This post was edited by DizzyBusiness on Feb 7 2023 12:11pm

US jails are not in any way designed to rehabilitate prisoners. never have been.

you dont like my position and appear to be fixating on the details. ultimately he should be either killed(accepting a reasonable period to challenge ruling) or jailed, not jailed for 10+ years and then killed. this is my position. the facts of the case are pretty basic. he probably killed his wife and children, he was jailed, 19? years ago and he is being executed now. i really dont care about the details of his crimes my position has been stated (i.e. death sentance or jail sentance, not both) and is not specific to this case.

do you seriously want a justice system where people are jailed for decades and then executed? is that not the same as slave labour ?



that would be an indicator of a broken justice system if true.

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 7 2023 12:30pm

What else should I focus on? The details are relevant are they not?

What is a reasonable period of time to challenge a ruling? If you were an innocent person on death row, how long would you be willing to fight your pending execution?

I would prefer all innocent people never be arrested and all guilty people be immediately punished, but that preference doesn't have any bearing on how the real world works. Whether or not you agree with the death penalty is one thing, but where do you get off saying how another countries justice system should work if you aren't willing to engage on the details of it?

then look at the facts of this case. how long has he been jailed, and then ask yourself the question, do you think that the decision to execute him now is overdue or just right? surely you agree with me that it was overly long?

This post was edited by ferdia on Feb 7 2023 12:43pm

Hmm isn't this a shit state with shit republicans in charge ?
Death penalty probably gives them a feeling of power.

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Feb 7 2023 01:21pm

I don't have strong feelings about the time he spent in prison before the state decided to execute him. I think you are viewing that time spent as an extra punishment or as a means of rehabilitation, but in a system that has the death penalty, the function of that time is inherently different than it is for other prisoners.