link the thread

Who is he again? The pulp fiction Scientology guy or the Mormon with ten kids?

It is probably 30 pages back by now. It was back when they announced they will start shooting the movie again and it seemed he was off the hook completely.


From the beginning it has been established that the type of revolver requires a trigger pull to be discharged. You basically hit my perspective in your OP. There is no excuse to be ignorant whether or not a firearm is loaded. My main Carrie’s, which I am the only person who touches them, get checked every time I pick them up. It is like when you wake up and immediately search for a clock to look at.

I don’t have much to add to this. Everybody involved broke rules, Baldwin broke every single day one of gun safety training’s rules. This boils down to Alec Baldwin pointed a loaded weapon towards a crowd, pulled the trigger and killed a woman. I hope this results in more than hush money.

https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=96643588&f=119&o=75

Here it is, re-reading it seems it mostly was euros arguing with you, cant blame them they're not even allowed to hold a gun.

the 2 most at fault are being charged, the armorer in charge of keeping live rounds off the set, and the person who took the gun, didnt check it, and pulled the trigger. zero chance a revolver "went off" unless he did. single action, double action, doesnt matter. trigger was pulled OR hammer was pulled back and trigger was too loose. either way gross negligence in handling. dont pull a hammer back, ever. its not a toy. the fact he knew it was loaded makes it worse, not better, despite claims he thought or was told it was loaded with blanks. he pointed a known loaded weapon at another human, engaged it, and fired.

It is refreshing when somebody else sees this for what it is.

in your thread and in my thread i can smell through the screen who has and hasnt actually handled a revolver before. the idea you'd accidentally fire it is silly, and i hope the jury has at least one gun competent person on it to point that out to the rest.

You don't mind i will do a repost:

Related to the use of firearms on a film set, in France:
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All this material, its storage, circulation and use are regulated in France by the Internal Security Code. The equipment cannot in any case arrive on a set without a regulatory passage in the workshop which modifies them to transform the deadly weapon into an accessory usable by actors. Contacted by Liberation, Frédéric Cauvy explains: “We make a screw step inside the barrel in order to weld a blank firing plug which makes the weapon definitively unfit for the ejection of a projectile.” In the same way the cartridges are also remanufactured, without projectile ("without warhead") but just a dosage of powder charge in order to produce a flame and an explosion noise. Weapons do not kill, but they are not harmless. “These are blank cartridges but you have to respect distances because there is a strong detonation, the release of a gas and a flame, explains Frédéric Cauvy. As the barrel is blocked in such a way as to just let the gas and the flame pass, it is out of the question to slip a real bullet into the magazine because the shooter would then be the first victim by a boomerang effect of the projectile prevented by the screw and welding. It is a concern on the big shoots of historical films when old guns are given to extras who could be tempted, by taste for this type of material, to experiment with it outside of takes. For a suicide scene with the barrel glued to the temple, blank firing remains dangerous if the weapon is not prepared for close use. For shots in the head, or in the mouth, special cartridges are used which make a strong detonation but without flame.
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Not expecting a gun nut commentary or third party [gun nut] post...

This post was edited by Meanwhile on Jan 20 2023 03:05pm

well stated my friend!

Alec Baldwin has always been a hollywood d*ck. Very sad for the girl and her family though rip and of course he should be punished for the murder.

This post was edited by meWW on Jan 22 2023 01:03pm

involuntary manslaughter is a fair charge but don't agree the person that handled props and gave him the gun should get the same charge - that should have been straight up manslaughter due to negligence.