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#21
Jan 19 2023 11:55am
Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 19 2023 11:30am)
not proven to work at all? based on what, a twitter doctor?

https://i.imgur.com/sOm0DKZ.jpg

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7106e1.htm

why have Asian countries been wearing masks since SARS 2002 if they are useless?

can we stop with the anti-science conspiracy theories that masks dont do anything just because they 'infringe on muh freedumb" or because some alt-right quack says they are a sign of the beast?
dont even get me started on vaccines....


people who wear seatbelts still die in car accidents, to these people they "dont work". sometimes the seatbelt can even be the cause of death, so they're "dangerous" to these people.
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Jan 19 2023 11:59am
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people who wear seatbelts still die in car accidents, to these people they "dont work". sometimes the seatbelt can even be the cause of death, so they're "dangerous" to these people.


It's a shame when i read this i feel weirdly embarassed for whole mandkind, like losing hope + some anger, the trigger is real.
I guess I'm not the only one ? It's very depressing.
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Jan 19 2023 12:05pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 19 2023 11:59am)
It's a shame when i read this i feel weirdly embarassed for whole mandkind, like losing hope + some anger, the trigger is real.
I guess I'm not the only one ? It's very depressing.


mankind is a hierarchy of intelligence. doctors aren't just more trained, or derived from priviledge, they're on the upper end of a natural bellcurve of intelligence.

this is be design, nature's design. a pack of humans in the wild need predominately dumb members, and a few smart ones to guide them. otherwise a battle breaks out or a natural disaster hits and there's 30 ideas of what to do among 40 people and they all die.
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Jan 19 2023 12:40pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jan 19 2023 05:59pm)
It's a shame when i read this i feel weirdly embarassed for whole mandkind, like losing hope + some anger, the trigger is real.
I guess I'm not the only one ? It's very depressing.


Do you feel shame for when you were brainwashed into thinking getting vaccinated will stop the spread cos vaccine stops the virus spread?
I'd imagine you felt embarrassed once pfizer spokesperson said in eu parlament how they never even tested the vaccine for prevention of spread.

Or was ur head so deep down ur ass u ignored it and kept repeating whats on tv?
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Jan 19 2023 12:52pm
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Do you feel shame for when you were brainwashed into thinking getting vaccinated will stop the spread cos vaccine stops the virus spread?
I'd imagine you felt embarrassed once pfizer spokesperson said in eu parlament how they never even tested the vaccine for prevention of spread.

Or was ur head so deep down ur ass u ignored it and kept repeating whats on tv?


I think most sane people understand its more about mortality reduction/hospitalization reduction than it ever was about completely 'stopping' the spread. the science proves that if you're vaccinated, your symptoms will be far less severe.
Idk what it is about conservative hogs that prevents them from understanding this. you guys cherry pick certain minor details to complain about but completely ignore the big picture. its actually insane how dumb people are

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Jan 19 2023 01:16pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 19 2023 06:52pm)
I think most sane people understand its more about mortality reduction/hospitalization reduction than it ever was about completely 'stopping' the spread. the science proves that if you're vaccinated, your symptoms will be far less severe.
Idk what it is about conservative hogs that prevents them from understanding this. you guys cherry pick certain minor details to complain about but completely ignore the big picture. its actually insane how dumb people are


Relax son, you're not followinf whats happening so lemme clarify.

I am aware of what vaccine does, which is why I suggested my parents and grandparents to get it as they're in risk group to their age and health. I myself never had a need to get it, for which obese sad people like meanwhile6000 lost their minds saying for 2 years straight how we have blood of thousands on our hands.
I was never against vaccine. I am against vaccine being pushed as mandatory thing to people that dont need it.


And most sane people dont realize what it is, cos tv said "spread stops with you" on vax commercials. Thats why you had to wither show negative test on flight (to prove you dont spread cos u dont carry the virus) or show vax card (to prove you dont spread cos u have vaccine which makes u unable to get and spread virus). Fast forward and here we are knowing how they lied about purpose of vax, but some people are too thick with their ego to admit they've been fooled.
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Jan 19 2023 01:41pm
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jan 19 2023 11:16am)

I am aware of what vaccine does




you clearly arent lol

Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jan 19 2023 11:16am)


And most sane people dont realize what it is, cos tv said "spread stops with you" on vax commercials. Thats why you had to wither show negative test on flight (to prove you dont spread cos u dont carry the virus) or show vax card (to prove you dont spread cos u have vaccine which makes u unable to get and spread virus). Fast forward and here we are knowing how they lied about purpose of vax, but some people are too thick with their ego to admit they've been fooled.



vaccines dont STOP the spread but they do REDUCE infectiousness (limits spread) which I hope we can both agree is a good thing

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.08.08.22278547v6

from the study

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Analyzing SARS-CoV-2 surveillance data from December 2021 to May 2022 across 35 California state prisons with a predominately male population, we estimate that unvaccinated Omicron cases had a 36% (95% confidence interval (CI): 31-42%) risk of transmitting infection to close contacts, as compared to 28% (25-31%) risk among vaccinated cases. In adjusted analyses, we estimated that any vaccination, prior infection alone, and both vaccination and prior infection reduced an index case’s risk of transmitting infection by 22% (6-36%), 23% (3-39%) and 40% (20-55%), respectively. Receipt of booster doses and more recent vaccination further reduced infectiousness among vaccinated cases. These findings suggest that although vaccinated and/or previously infected individuals remain highly infectious upon SARS-CoV-2 infection in this prison setting, their infectiousness is reduced compared to individuals without any history of vaccination or infection, underscoring some benefit of vaccination to reduce but not eliminate transmission.
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Jan 19 2023 02:24pm
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you clearly arent lol




vaccines dont STOP the spread but they do REDUCE infectiousness (limits spread) which I hope we can both agree is a good thing

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.08.08.22278547v6

from the study


ayyy jesus christ.

its ok buddy. hope you got yours to save grandma :)) you're doing great
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Jan 19 2023 02:27pm
Quote (SylvesterStallone @ Jan 19 2023 12:24pm)
ayyy jesus christ.

its ok buddy. hope you got yours to save grandma :)) you're doing great


you see? its not that hard to follow science :)
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Jan 19 2023 02:30pm
Quote (gnarjay @ Jan 19 2023 08:27pm)
you see? its not that hard to follow science :)


follow your own advice :)



vaccine was never tested and "we had to do everything at risk" (releasing the vaccine itself).

and for 2 years we were literally being told it DOES stop the spread, until there were "BREAKTHROUGH CASES".
they were called Breakthrough cos they were so rare amongst vaccinated population. unless they really weren't.
we were told "spread stops with you", we were told "do it for your family and close ones" etc.
dont tell me you forgot already?

narrative was literally for 2 years, that getting vaccinated stops the spread. and if you have free time, be free to go through my Covid19 topic in PaRD in which people argued for 100 pages on whether it does or doesnt cos ones were obsessed with TV, and ones listened to actual science.

that0's why you're here talking to me now. cos I replied to susage6000 as he flamed me for 2 years for having blood on my hands cos I refused the jab.
cheers

This post was edited by SylvesterStallone on Jan 19 2023 02:31pm
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