they’re using the most effective form of contraception. well done

I disagree. Widely available contraceptives have made it incredibly unlikely that casual sex will result in a pregnancy.

The second part, is that what we want? I would say no. We want stable families producing children, not single parent households that will be stretched to give the kid the time and energy he/she deserves.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, that's on the SCOTUS agenda. If they follow suit, it will likely become a "state's rights" issue. So in the same states that abortion is restricted or banned, contraceptives will also likely be restricted or banned.



Nobody is suggesting that adults should not be responsible with parenting their children. There is no rule that prevents that from occurring. Maybe there is some cultural issue that I am not seeing here. To me, causal sex is something that occurs between adults and when pregnancies occur, I would assume that the two people would parent the child appropriately.

Lol, this

I was the one paying for their mistakes before, so now we're just going back to the norm.

I don't even know what that means.

What isn't clear about it?

People are having less frivolous fun because there is a negative cost associated with bad choices.

Before, I was paying for their therapy, their abortions, and their STD treatments.

Now I'm not paying as much money for their bad decisions. Because of it, they are correcting their behavior. Pretty simple concept.

No.



So people having sex is a bad choice in your opinion?



Really? Do you have receipts for that? Why were you paying for that anyways?



Well if you're trying to suggest that the publics money, which is not yours to be very clear, was being used for something that you didn't support, then I hate to break it to you, but it's going to cost even more now as there's going to be even more children with out parents that the government will need to invest in so that they can contribute to society as a taxpayer.

This post was edited by mki on Nov 19 2022 06:08pm

Frivolous fun between consenting adults is a choice with consequences. Some good, some bad.

If you can't afford a child, which most single women can't, frivolous fun is a terrible, life-crippling choice by the numbers.

You think having a surgeon perform an abortion is free? You need a high-paid surgeon and a crud-ton of supplies which could otherwise go towards actually useful pursuits for the greater society.



Yes, federal taxpayer dollars are often used for abortion. Now the tax dollars are used less so than they were before, especially in red states. Then there is the therapy and STD treatments.



How are we going to have more children if adults are having less frivolous fun?

"I don't even know what that means."

LOL

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Nov 19 2022 06:25pm

You're not a American are you? Nobody can really afford anything in this country. Everything is purchased using an absurd amount of debt and most parents live paycheck to paycheck.



That's a really strange question to ask in a conversation about a topic where public funds can not be used. Private individuals pay for those procedures, not the public, tax payer money is not used. It's not my financial problem and unless you're having an abortion performed on you, it's not your financial problem either.



Nope, totally wrong. Tax dollars to not contribute towards abortions. I don't know who told you that, but they were not being honest. It's totally and completely forbidden.



Great question: I don't think for a single second that this decision is going to stop poor and under-educated people from having children, they will actually end up having more. While at the same time, the responsible adults who would actually be good parents, will end up masturbating by themselves in between video game sessions.

The move on abortion by SCOTUS will only hurt the people who don't deserve it while the people who would normally be the ones getting abortions will just keep having kids.

Have you seen the movie Idiocracy? I'm not saying that is what will happen, but I am pointing out that the situation regarding procreation will be similar. We're going to end up with a population of dumb-dumbs with a handful of people trying to do family planning in a world that financially punishes people for being good parents. I realize that this is a false comparison as the movie is pure fiction, but I hope the comparison illustrates my point.

This post was edited by mki on Nov 19 2022 06:41pm