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Quote (Sioux @ Nov 19 2022 09:30am)


woah, a 2020 article on some closed religious community shows that their genes are most likely not shared enough lmao.
population of such : 370k people. shocking but mine has almost 50M
is that all you got chump ?

Quote (Sioux @ Nov 19 2022 10:39am)
Sorry, I don't speak gibberish. Here's actual peer-reviewed data as summarized and sourced linked by the CDC https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#vaccine-effectiveness


So you just ignore it right ? lmao

Imagine thinking covid vaccines are fine in late 2022. Seek help m8

This post was edited by Melatonina on Nov 19 2022 03:41am
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woah, a 2020 article on some closed religious community shows that their genes are most likely not shared enough lmao.
population of such : 370k people. shocking but mine has almost 50M
is that all you got chump ?


oui oui baguette
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oui oui baguette


oui oui fatty
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Nov 19 2022 06:57am
Quote (tugofpeace @ Nov 19 2022 12:28am)
Pfizer claims relative risk reduction is 95%, while absolute risk reduction is 0.84%. Now stick with me here, I'll make the math simple.

Let's say Pfizer takes a sample population of 2,000 people and exposes them to Covid.

1,000 people are unvaccinated
1,000 people are vaccinated

In the unvaccinated group, 60 die. 60/1,000 = 6% die
In the vaccinated group, 3 die. 3/1,000 = .3% die

Relative risk reduction = (60-3)/60 = 95%



Now, consider that for a healthy young person the survival rate is probably 99.7% or higher. In a relative risk reduction calculation ALL people are included meaning healthy and unhealthy.

Since that is the case, why is relative risk reduction used to market the vaccine as being effective for everyone?

If there was a trial of 2,000 healthy 25 year olds, whose survival rate is 99.7% or higher, the relative risk reduction would STILL be 66% if 3 unvaccinated died and 1 vaccinated died, yet in absolute risk reduction terms this is a 0.20% effectiveness.

In reality, if your survival rate is 99.7%, how can the vaccine be 95% effective for you? It can't. Even in absolute risk reduction terms, it's maximum effectiveness is 0.84%.

So isn't this a disingenuous way of marketing the vaccine towards people?



Can you do the same thing with the real data instead of made up numbers?
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Nov 19 2022 08:21am
They have proven themselves to be untrustworthy liars over and over.
Why would anyone believe anything they say at this point?
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Nov 19 2022 08:40am
Some super sketch math there.
557/6585=0.08458. 84.5 is rounded to 84.4%? whatever, close enough.
103/1317=0.078208. Lol where the hell did they pull 15.6% from?
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Quote (Vastet @ Nov 19 2022 03:40pm)
Some super sketch math there.
557/6585=0.08458. 84.5 is rounded to 84.4%? whatever, close enough.
103/1317=0.078208. Lol where the hell did they pull 15.6% from?


learn maths maybe

103 + 557 = 660
103 is 15.6% of 660...

the triggering is real with betas

"proud canadian" lmao I just see this now

This post was edited by Melatonina on Nov 19 2022 09:21am
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Learn math yourself. And French while you're at it.
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Quote (Vastet @ Nov 19 2022 04:21pm)
Learn math yourself. And French while you're at it.


Irony when you neeeded help to figure it out you sick in da head beta



This post was edited by Melatonina on Nov 19 2022 09:24am
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Nov 19 2022 09:26am
Says the guy who's too clueless to appreciate he proved nothing but his own inability to do math.

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