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Nov 19 2022 12:55pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 19 2022 07:51pm)
Thanks for the history refresher. We are actually debating the current protests.

Did Americans kill the young Kurdish woman?
Or was that the Iranian regimes "morality police"?


who care about 1 girl died? its a political use.

and ofc our media take pleasure to show this, to show again to our sheep " look at iran! they dont drink coca and their policiy killed a women for her clothes" , but look on usa, policy kill people for less than clothes.. and everyday

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Nov 19 2022 01:01pm
Quote (Pisior @ Nov 19 2022 06:55pm)
who care about 1 girl died? its a political use.

and ofc our media take pleasure to show this, to show again to our sheep " look at iran! they dont drink coca and their policiy killed a women for her clothes" , but look on usa, policy kill people for less than clothes.. and everyday


People in the USA have freedom of speech. Something you are using now. In Iran they would have already killed you ^^
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Nov 19 2022 01:02pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 19 2022 09:51pm)
Thanks for the history refresher. We are actually debating the current protests.

Did Americans kill the young Kurdish woman?
Or was that the Iranian regimes "morality police"?


What i don't understand is why people who have 0 connection or understanding of a conflict, take such a large space.

We always need a history refresher, because if you don't learn from history you end up being a destroyed nation, raped by other regional/global powers.

Komeley jiyanewey kurd have ever since 1945 with Qazi Muhammed tried to "liberate" Kurdish regions and carried out an insurgency. A large part of the conflict has also played out between talabanis/iran vs PDK/turkey/at times iraq, since even before 20's-60's with varying degrees with iran/iraq war and regional conflicts (PKK vs PDK, PUK vs PDK civil-wars). This is also disregarding the large azeri conflict. Iran is essentially a multiethnic place, where different groups want to see the government go, and these have regional backers since 1940s.

However, it is almost certainly impossible that they iran gov would be overthrown by these groups, and even if it was the new "iranian-gov" would just be less islamic but hold same political interests, as was the case before the islamic government, during shah(US puppet) who hanged Qazi in mahabad.. When talking about countries like Iran, it rarely boils down to something as simple as "huamneeitete rigtes".

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What i don't understand is why people who have 0 connection or understanding of a conflict, take such a large space.

We always need a history refresher, because if you don't learn from history you end up being a destroyed nation, raped by other regional/global powers.

Komeley jiyanewey kurd have ever since 1945 with Qazi Muhammed tried to "liberate" Kurdish regions and carried out an insurgency. A large part of the conflict has also played out between talabanis/iran vs PDK/turkey/at times iraq, since even before halabja and iran/iraq war. This is also disregarding the large azeri conflict. Iran is essentially a multiethnic place, where different groups want to see the government go, and these have regional backers since 1940s.

However, it is almost certainly impossible that they iran gov would be overthrown by these groups, and even if it was the new "iranian-gov" would just be less islamic but hold same political interests, as was the case before the islamic government, during shah(US puppet). When talking about countries like Iran, it rarely boils down to something as simple as "huamneeitete rigtes".


The question was about the woman the Iranian police murdered.
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Nov 19 2022 01:06pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 19 2022 10:03pm)
The question was about the woman the Iranian police murdered.


Let me simplify it for it, you are out of depth and have zero understanding of the conflict. You also lack the historical context, and the powerbalance at play.

The death of a kurdish woman, isn't a big deal because kurds have been hanged in iran since 1930's with the most impactful being when Qazi was hanged in the republic of mahabad by Shah (US-puppet).

Take ur ego, and lack of understanding elsewhere. The "fall" of Islamic government in Iran, changes nothing. In the worst case scenario the power-balance will be tipped, and middle east will turn into a savage bloodbath of minorities/shia crest by turkish and or saudi backed regional groups.

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Nov 19 2022 01:09pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 19 2022 08:01pm)
People in the USA have freedom of speech. Something you are using now. In Iran they would have already killed you ^^


freedom of speech, cf Snwoden
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Nov 19 2022 01:11pm
Quote (Pisior @ 20 Nov 2022 03:09)
freedom of speech, cf Snwoden


USA have informal censorship.
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Nov 19 2022 01:12pm
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 18 2022 03:37pm)
So you've got no reply other than a quote of mine that I addressed already? --> if not for billions upon billions of aid Ukraine would have lost in months which would've been a good thing --> no war / energy crisis / food shortage /inflation etc etc

Your piss poor rely shows I literally nuked your thread with a single post. Thx for playing.


Yeah! Why couldn't those fucking Ukrainian peasants just learned to live under the boot of a murderous dictator? What the fuck is wrong with them?
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Nov 19 2022 01:13pm
Quote (ownyaah @ Nov 19 2022 07:06pm)
Let me simplify it for it, you are out of depth and have zero understanding of the conflict. You also lack the historical context, and the powerbalance at play.

The death of a kurdish woman, isn't a big deal because kurds have been hanged in iran since 1930's with the most impactful being when Qazi was hanged in the republic of mahabad by Shah (US-puppet).

Take ur ego, and lack of understanding elsewhere.


It was a simple question that you've twice avoided. Ad hominem is a common tact of a serial denialist.

Thanks for clarifying to what extent your input should be valued.
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Nov 19 2022 01:13pm
Quote (Prox1m1ty @ 20 Nov 2022 03:01)
People in the USA have freedom of speech. Something you are using now. In Iran they would have already killed you ^^


Freedom of speech work as it should be and very well before the internet happens.
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