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Nov 19 2022 03:30pm
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 19 2022 03:31pm)
It's so damn obvious that they tried literally everything to discredit / destabilize the Trump administration. If you can't see that you're in denial.

I'm not saying Trump was a good president but the swamp got what they deserved for shitting on average Americans and moving production abroad. Which is exactly what created the opportunity for a guy like Trump, nothing else.


I think this is you admitting that you've fallen back into a tribalism where you believe everybody is out to get Trump, therefore no behavior from him is bad, and any investigation is unwarranted. Kudos for honesty I suppose, but this is me helping you to come to some self-awareness.
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Nov 19 2022 04:07pm
Quote (IceMage @ Nov 19 2022 10:30pm)
I think this is you admitting that you've fallen back into a tribalism where you believe everybody is out to get Trump, therefore no behavior from him is bad, and any investigation is unwarranted. Kudos for honesty I suppose, but this is me helping you to come to some self-awareness.


Did you check this out? Only takes 3 minutes



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Nov 19 2022 04:11pm
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so the current admin pulls a guy who specializes in war crime investigations at the hague off those types of cases, and assign him to find something that’ll stick here since everything else hasn’t yielded their desired results


Well, the interference in the Georgia election and the taking of the classified documents are new issues.

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Did you check this out? Only takes 3 minutes


It's a video of a bunch of talk show hosts talking... They talk about a lot of things on TV... They're not always correct...
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Well, the interference in the Georgia election and the taking of the classified documents are new issues.



It's a video of a bunch of talk show hosts talking... They talk about a lot of things on TV... They're not always correct...


This was the daily news for 4 years. News is the wrong word I'd call it an orchestrated non stop smear campaign.

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Nov 19 2022 04:21pm
Quote (Djunior @ 19 Nov 2022 17:19)
This was the daily news for 4 years. News is the wrong word I'd call it an orchestrated non stop smear campaign.


Yeah and even though I laughed the entire time, I admit that it was completely disgusting.

6 more years!
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Nov 19 2022 04:35pm
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 19 2022 05:07pm)
Did you check this out? Only takes 3 minutes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ab6uxg908


Nope, because the facts of Russigate, the Ukraine scandal, Jan. 6th, the classified documents issue, or whatever else exist outside of the media bubbles which either inflate or deflate the facts. That's why I'm comfortable in saying that Russiagate was a huge issue, even though the fantasy around it was bigger than the result(or if you were in right-wing media, it was much smaller than the result).

Dude, we're in an age where the facts are at our fingertips, a Google search away. We can look at the court documents instantly. Why rely on bullshit rationalizations from Trump-friendly media when you can easily find what happened? You're just being lazy, or being a cultist, if you think these incidences are not evidence of Trump's criminality and/or unfitness for office.

And the behavior from the left does nothing to absolve or ameliorate the behavior from the Trump cult.

This post was edited by IceMage on Nov 19 2022 04:38pm
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Nope, because the facts of Russigate, the Ukraine scandal, Jan. 6th, the classified documents issue, or whatever else exist outside of the media bubbles which either inflate or deflate the facts. That's why I'm comfortable in saying that Russiagate was a huge issue, even though the fantasy around it was bigger than the result.

Dude, we're in an age where the facts our at our fingertips, a Google search away. We can look at the court documents instantly. Why rely on bullshit rationalizations from Trump-friendly media when you can easily find what happened? You're just being lazy, or being a cultist, if you think these incidences are not evidence of Trump's criminality and/or unfitness for office.


If Russians could pick the next US president that easily why wouldn't they do that every single time.

There I debunked Russia hoax in a single sentence. No need to read stacks and stacks of documents that basically hide the truth in a gigantic word salad
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Quote (IceMage @ 19 Nov 2022 17:35)
Nope, because the facts of Russigate, the Ukraine scandal, Jan. 6th, the classified documents issue, or whatever else exist outside of the media bubbles which either inflate or deflate the facts. That's why I'm comfortable in saying that Russiagate was a huge issue, even though the fantasy around it was bigger than the result(or if you were in right-wing media, it was much smaller than the result).


The biggest issue with the Russian interference is that it showed how poorly the US is prepared to deal with such an attack. I hope that everyone realizes that after it was investigated, that Trump was indeed just a useful idiot and Putin was just retaliating against Clinton for what Putin perceived as the US meddling in the Russian elections.

Their misinformation campaign was serious and effective. There's still people to this very day that still believe in the Uranium 1 scandal, even thought they never really knew any details of the story anyways.

Quote (Djunior @ 19 Nov 2022 17:39)
If Russians could pick the next US president that easily why wouldn't they do that every single time.

There I debunked Russia hoax in a single sentence. No need to read stacks and stacks of documents that basically hide the truth in a gigantic word salad


Read above.
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Nov 19 2022 04:53pm
Quote (Djunior @ 19 Nov 2022 23:39)
If Russians could pick the next US president that easily why wouldn't they do that every single time.

There I debunked Russia hoax in a single sentence. No need to read stacks and stacks of documents that basically hide the truth in a gigantic word salad


Interference in an election != single-handedly deciding the election.

This point notwithstanding, Russiagate was indeed a big nothingburger which was deliberately blown out of proportion by Democrats and the mainstream media for political gain.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 19 2022 04:54pm
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Nov 19 2022 04:55pm
Quote (Djunior @ Nov 19 2022 05:39pm)
If Russians could pick the next US president that easily why wouldn't they do that every single time.

There I debunked Russia hoax in a single sentence. No need to read stacks and stacks of documents that basically hide the truth in a gigantic word salad


You're arguing against a strawman, and you haven't provided any facts at all.
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