Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Oct 14 2022 10:40pm)

I was watching a podcast where they called people who make less than 150k a year literal slaves. They said to be happy and an average joe you at least need to make 300k-500k a year as a couple.

Thoughts?

I am personally set for life and don't have to be a # in the system but i want to know what you guys think (The people who sadly have to work daily to stay afloat)

Quote (Ironfister @ Oct 15 2022 02:33am)

Basic food is 800usd per year.
Basic housing, like a small room in a shared flat, is like 2000usd per year. Including electricity, heating and hot water (of course in limited quantity).
Clothing 200usd.
Basic hygiene and cleaning 200usd.
Another 200usd for some basic culture like a shared internet, a computer every 7 years, single subscription netflix-like that you swap from time to time, some older games that sell cheap.
Beer/coke/crisps 100usd (big coke bottles are more cost effective than cans).
Tram/bus yearly ticket OR a basic small, used car: 500-1000usd.
Mobile plan and a phone every 2-3 years: 300usd.
Forgot anything?
As long as you are healthy, 4300-5000usd per year is often enough, and anything else is extra that you can either save or spend on luxuries like holidays.
Add 2500usd for every children.
Of course if you live in an expensive place like new york then the prices will be higher.
Now the things get more difficult if you have health problems, as then the costs might get basically unlimited.

Quote (Dr_Lecter @ Oct 15 2022 12:11am)

Where do you find the calculator for the us average city? All the calcs I can seem to find are comparing one place to another.

Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark @ Oct 14 2022 03:40pm)

I was watching a podcast where they called people who make less than 150k a year literal slaves. They said to be happy and an average joe you at least need to make 300k-500k a year as a couple.

Thoughts?

I am personally set for life and don't have to be a # in the system but i want to know what you guys think (The people who sadly have to work daily to stay afloat)

Quote (Ironfister @ Oct 15 2022 03:33am)

Basic food is 800usd per year.
Basic housing, like a small room in a shared flat, is like 2000usd per year. Including electricity, heating and hot water (of course in limited quantity).
Clothing 200usd.
Basic hygiene and cleaning 200usd.
Another 200usd for some basic culture like a shared internet, a computer every 7 years, single subscription netflix-like that you swap from time to time, some older games that sell cheap.
Beer/coke/crisps 100usd (big coke bottles are more cost effective than cans).
Tram/bus yearly ticket OR a basic small, used car: 500-1000usd.
Mobile plan and a phone every 2-3 years: 300usd.
Forgot anything?
As long as you are healthy, 4300-5000usd per year is often enough, and anything else is extra that you can either save or spend on luxuries like holidays.
Add 2500usd for every children.
Of course if you live in an expensive place like new york then the prices will be higher.
Now the things get more difficult if you have health problems, as then the costs might get basically unlimited.

Quote (Ironfister @ Oct 15 2022 03:33am)

Basic food is 800usd per year.
Basic housing, like a small room in a shared flat, is like 2000usd per year. Including electricity, heating and hot water (of course in limited quantity).
Clothing 200usd.
Basic hygiene and cleaning 200usd.
Another 200usd for some basic culture like a shared internet, a computer every 7 years, single subscription netflix-like that you swap from time to time, some older games that sell cheap.
Beer/coke/crisps 100usd (big coke bottles are more cost effective than cans).
Tram/bus yearly ticket OR a basic small, used car: 500-1000usd.
Mobile plan and a phone every 2-3 years: 300usd.
Forgot anything?
As long as you are healthy, 4300-5000usd per year is often enough, and anything else is extra that you can either save or spend on luxuries like holidays.
Add 2500usd for every children.
Of course if you live in an expensive place like new york then the prices will be higher.
Now the things get more difficult if you have health problems, as then the costs might get basically unlimited.

Quote (SBD @ 15 Oct 2022 18:45)

Now take people in remote areas who still make at or below national averages, in many cases vastly lower due to no economic activity.

My monthly food bill eating rice and food I catch myself is 800 dollars. Oh well it's not much of the population that lives remote.

Quote (Ironfister @ Oct 15 2022 11:29am)

I dont understand you, you say you eat rice, rice is very cheap, like a dollar per kilo. How does that make you 800usd monthly?
How do you 'catch food yourself", do you catch wild fish, have a cow for milk and farm your own vegetables etc?
I just hope you dont go bear hunting, it could be dangerous