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Sep 23 2022 01:34am
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This is specifically a thread for recent extremist attacks in the United States where there's a clear political motive. I don't care that this particular story has been posted elsewhere, those threads are too narrow in scope and have been derailed.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/man-admits-running-over-teenager-045604094.html

A man in North Dakota mowed down and killed an 18-year old after a political argument. He alleged that the 18-year old was a "Republican extremist" and was therefore a threat to public safety. He has since been charged with vehicular homicide and released on a $50,000 bond.

Frankly, I think it's clear that Biden's rhetoric plays a big role in radicalizing the already mentally unstable left wing of his party. When you tell your supporters that their opponents are fascists and existential threats to life, you can't turn around and act horrified when your same, very own supporters go out and do something about it.

I have to wonder whether this will be included in the 2022 ADL list of violent extremism. I'm going to give it a 10% chance.


Im reading this and thinking whether i dreamt January 6th! What now extremism do you want?

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Quote (FantasyWorldII @ Sep 23 2022 02:34am)
Im reading this and thinking whether i dreamt January 6th!


You didn't.
That POS guard deff shot an unarmed woman.
She was the only one to die that day.
Sad, rip Ashli Babbitt.
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You didn't.
That POS guard deff shot an unarmed woman.
She was the only one to die that day.
Sad, rip Ashli Babbitt.


Whot? Great take...

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Whot? Great take...


Take???
Everything I said is a fact.
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Sep 23 2022 05:10am
Quote (bogie160 @ 22 Sep 2022 22:50)
This is specifically a thread for recent extremist attacks in the United States where there's a clear political motive. I don't care that this particular story has been posted elsewhere, those threads are too narrow in scope and have been derailed.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/man-admits-running-over-teenager-045604094.html

A man in North Dakota mowed down and killed an 18-year old after a political argument. He alleged that the 18-year old was a "Republican extremist" and was therefore a threat to public safety. He has since been charged with vehicular homicide and released on a $50,000 bond.

Frankly, I think it's clear that Biden's rhetoric plays a big role in radicalizing the already mentally unstable left wing of his party. When you tell your supporters that their opponents are fascists and existential threats to life, you can't turn around and act horrified when your same, very own supporters go out and do something about it.

I have to wonder whether this will be included in the 2022 ADL list of violent extremism. I'm going to give it a 10% chance.


It's starting to happen in Taiwan too. Taiwanese have adopted American version of Democracy and politics.
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Sep 23 2022 07:03am
when trump did the same thing you and your ilk said "unless he says explicitly to go out and hurt people its not his fault". so frankly i dont give 2 fucks what you think.

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Yes it is lol. We've literally had Republicans encouraging bombing of abortion clinics for decades. In terms of violence over political disagreements Democrats have a shit load of catching up to do.


Violent anti-abortion extremism is a good example of that sort of moral absolutism in action. I can find about 7 murders on wiki over the last 30 years. Which Republican president encouraged those bombings? Or are you saying that to be anti-abortion is inherently violent?

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Your second paragraph is just peak irony. You accused the left for a literal decade of falling into moral relativism and rejecting objective ethics and shit. I remember it because it precipitated a ton of conversations about subjective vs objective morals.


I really don't have any recollection of what you're talking about. What I'd say is that morals are relative by definition, but that we are under no obligation to treat all moral beliefs equally.
Our preference for Enlightenment liberalism, Classical education, and Anglo-Saxon individualism stems from the fact that it gave us one of the wealthiest and most powerful nations in history. But the Japanese do things very differently, and as long as the end product is good, no one bats an eye. Where the product is frankly awful (e.g. Islamic State), we all have a pretty big problem. Religion does attach absolute importance to at least some moral tenets, but in the United States that's expressed via European Christianity, as filtered through the prisms of the Enlightenment and all of the other things we just discussed. That's why you don't find American Christians running around lynching witches.

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Violent anti-abortion extremism is a good example of that sort of moral absolutism in action. I can find about 7 murders on wiki over the last 30 years. Which Republican president encouraged those bombings? Or are you saying that to be anti-abortion is inherently violent?



I really don't have any recollection of what you're talking about. What I'd say is that morals are relative by definition, but that we are under no obligation to treat all moral beliefs equally.
Our preference for Enlightenment liberalism, Classical education, and Anglo-Saxon individualism stems from the fact that it gave us one of the wealthiest and most powerful nations in history. But the Japanese do things very differently, and as long as the end product is good, no one bats an eye. Where the product is frankly awful (e.g. Islamic State), we all have a pretty big problem. Religion does attach absolute importance to at least some moral tenets, but in the United States that's expressed via European Christianity, as filtered through the prisms of the Enlightenment and all of the other things we just discussed. That's why you don't find American Christians running around lynching witches.


Quote (YeeHaw @ Sep 23 2022 01:07am)
So should we talk about what is happening now with pregnancy centers?


Quote (YeeHaw @ Sep 23 2022 02:16am)
Guess not :rofl:

I remember that bombing that happened in what. 1984? :unsure:


Dude immediately put his foot in his mouth when he realized he wasn’t even alive the last time an abortion clinic was bombed.
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Sep 27 2022 12:43am
This topic went so quiet.

Here is the newest I have seen. Last week guy murders child, this week man shoots old lady in the back.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2022/09/24/right-to-life-volunteer-shot-while-canvassing/69516293007/

But that abortion clinic got bombed like 40 years ago guys!!!!!

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