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Sep 14 2022 02:19pm
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Sep 14 2022 02:44pm
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You're the one one who brought up the red herring of the 2020 protests and said the cops stood down, when they effectively did nothing of the sort. Were there cases where they did? Sure. Same with J6 (some stood down, some fought the raiders). But police excessively instigated violence where no violence had been occurring.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/29/us-police-brutality-protest


The fuck are you even talking about.

I cited the protests as an example that police do not have an obligation to protect property rights, nothing more.

If it were up to me all of those degenerates should have been cut the fuck down with machine guns
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Sep 14 2022 02:52pm
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Sep 14 2022 02:57pm
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The fuck are you even talking about.

I cited the protests as an example that police do not have an obligation to protect property rights, nothing more.

If it were up to me all of those degenerates should have been cut the fuck down with machine guns


They don't have an obligation to protect anything. They overwhelmingly CHOOSE to protect property rights. If that weren't the case, then our prisons wouldn't be filled almost exclusively with poor people.
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Sep 14 2022 03:58pm
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They don't have an obligation to protect anything. They overwhelmingly CHOOSE to protect property rights. If that weren't the case, then our prisons wouldn't be filled almost exclusively with poor people.



they're filled by privately owned prison systems that thrive off false persecution & historically so. How many would have never gotten locked up if marijuana was legal?

thats effectively a big sorry we robbed you of your life for something that we now admit is subjective.

par for the course regarding the the illusory law system where it's legal to be illegal.
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Sep 14 2022 04:12pm
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they're filled by privately owned prison systems that thrive off false persecution & historically so. How many would have never gotten locked up if marijuana was legal?

thats effectively a big sorry we robbed you of your life for something that we now admit is subjective.

par for the course regarding the the illusory law system where it's legal to be illegal.


I support ending the drug war and legalizing drugs at the federal level. I also support the banning of privately owned prisons. There should never be a profit motive behind the removal of one's freedom of movement. And I would commute the sentences of non-violent drug offenders. We need to put money into fixing broken systems, as that will prevent far more crime than the police do.
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Sep 14 2022 04:21pm
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I support ending the drug war and legalizing drugs at the federal level. I also support the banning of privately owned prisons. There should never be a profit motive behind the removal of one's freedom of movement. And I would commute the sentences of non-violent drug offenders. We need to put money into fixing broken systems, as that will prevent far more crime than the police do.



just let them get high and enjoy life well, that might actually help to spread peace & joy? they can't have that unless its been GMO'D & controlled.

joke sauce planet.

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Sep 14 2022 04:49pm
Quote (El1te @ Sep 14 2022 03:02pm)
so you're changing the topic, okay.

I'll re-iterate: police are not obligated to protect property rights.

1. You first claim that police are only there to protect property rights.
2. I counter that they are also there to protect life and safety rights.
3. You counter that they are not obligated to protect the right to life and safety (perhaps true) to support your argument that they exist to protect property rights, implying that they do have an obligation to protect property rights.
4. I counter that they clearly do not have an obligation to protect property rights either and cite a recent example.

5. You change the topic and bring up that police "abused protesters" and say that they did so "illegally" without evidence


Just because their primary purpose is to protect property rights doesn't mean they can't also sometimes do other things. Sometimes police help people, but more often than not they don't even when it's children getting gunned down in a school. They rarely miss an opportunity to enforce property rights though, as evidenced by the fact they were willing to brutalize peaceful protesters and journalists during the Floyd protests.

You said they just stood down during the protests. That is categorically untrue. They actively brutalized protesters and journalists and the investigations afterwards revealed they actually made attempts to incite the crowds to violence so they could have cover to brutalize them.
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Sep 14 2022 04:52pm
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Just because their primary purpose is to protect property rights doesn't mean they can't also sometimes do other things. Sometimes police help people, but more often than not they don't even when it's children getting gunned down in a school. They rarely miss an opportunity to enforce property rights though, as evidenced by the fact they were willing to brutalize peaceful protesters and journalists during the Floyd protests.

You said they just stood down during the protests. That is categorically untrue. They actively brutalized protesters and journalists and the investigations afterwards revealed they actually made attempts to incite the crowds to violence so they could have cover to brutalize them.



or how about they release fake protestors from unmarked police cars in order to obfuscate a peaceful protest or better yet ultra sonic weapons that can short-circuit your brain.
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Sep 14 2022 04:55pm
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or how about they release fake protestors from unmarked police cars in order to obfuscate a peaceful protest or better yet ultra sonic weapons that can short-circuit your brain.


Please take your meds
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