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Aug 7 2022 06:29pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 7 2022 05:18pm)
But when you say the West should make amends for it, it sounds like you are holding the entire west responsible for the actions of the multi-national corporations.


Yes.
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Aug 7 2022 05:29pm)
Yes.


Why?
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Aug 7 2022 06:34pm
Because we're the 'demand' side of the exploitation.
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Because we're the 'demand' side of the exploitation.


We are on the demand side of chocolate. But we did not instruct the corporations to exploit.
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Aug 7 2022 06:51pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 7 Aug 2022 20:19)
You were in a huff.


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We are on the demand side of chocolate. But we did not instruct the corporations to exploit.


But we continue to demand.
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But we continue to demand.


There is nothing inherently wrong about demanding chocolate. It's all about how one goes after the chocolate. We have no control over this because we do not control the corporations.

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There is nothing inherently wrong about demanding chocolate. It's all about how one goes after the chocolate. We have no control over this because we do not control the corporations.


But we were the benefactor of exploitation.
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But we were the benefactor of exploitation.


I wouldn't say we are the beneficiaries of exploitation. We are the end cosumers of chocolates that corporations obtain through exploitation, which we have no control over.

Anyway, do you acknowledge that we did not instruct corporations to exploit?
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Quote (JessiWan @ Aug 7 2022 06:32pm)
Hello. I remember talking to this guy on this other forum. Basically, he said that the West's demand for chocolate resulted in international companies going to third world countries that produced cocoa beans and exploiting the local farmers, paying them very low wages. He said that this means the West should accept these people into their countries as immigrants as a way to right their wrong, so to speak. But I believed that the fault should lie with the companies, not with the average person in the West. Yes there is a demand for chocolate but nobody said the businessmen needed to turn to exploitation. They could have paid a decent wage to the producers of chocolates, ensuring that they have enough to live on and would not have to come to the West for a better life.

Anyway just wondering which side you are on.


What do we mean by exploitation, did these cocoa companies run a mafia state like the Belgians?
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