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Aug 7 2022 04:44am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 7 Aug 2022 18:40)
Imho in the next 10 years, but not anytime soon.

The huge 20th National Congress of the CCP is coming up this fall, so I really doubt that Xi will be willing to take any risks right now - and an invasion gone wrong would be a huge blow to his power and authority. Likewise, the current covid situation in China is still dicey, I don't see how they could sustain their zero covid policy and a war effort at the same time - but giving up zero covid would be a huge risk too since they have almost no natural immunity from previous infection and refused to use the effective Western mRNA vaccines out of ideological/national pride reasons.

The current maneuvers imho serve two goals: appease the nationalists who were calling for a robust response to Pelosi's "provocation", and use the opportunity of having an excuse to conduct a full-scale test of an invasion of Taiwan.


I can't wait for someone who is more balance and milder than Xi and someone who is pro business and doesn't regulate banks that much. I just need 6 to 8 years.
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Aug 7 2022 04:53am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 7 Aug 2022 12:44)
I can't wait for someone who is more balance and milder than Xi and someone who is pro business and doesn't regulate banks that much. I just need 6 to 8 years.


The leaders of China before Xi, Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao, basically fit this bill, didn't they? I think it's no coincidence that China saw it's most rapid rise in terms of economic and diplomatic power during their tenure while China has made a lot more enemies since Xi took over.

If you ask me, Xi dropped the pretense of China being a peaceful, benevolent power too soon. Had China been able to hide its aggressive, imperialist ambitions for just a couple more years, they could have subverted Western societies and economies to the point of no return.
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Aug 7 2022 05:05am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 7 Aug 2022 18:53)
The leaders of China before Xi, Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao, basically fit this bill, didn't they? I think it's no coincidence that China saw it's most rapid rise in terms of economic and diplomatic power during their tenure while China has made a lot more enemies since Xi took over.

If you ask me, Xi dropped the pretense of China being a peaceful, benevolent power too soon. Had China been able to hide its aggressive, imperialist ambitions for just a couple more years, they could have subverted Western societies and economies to the point of no return.


You are wrong here.

China never had the imperialist ambitions.

I can tell you why. And exactly why, in a very short couple of sentence.

Xi wants to earn money
Jiang refused to let him take control of Hong Kong and earn money.
Jiang wasn't very nice to Hu Jintao's team.
Ended up Hu Jintao supported Xi to power.

Xi came to power in 2013 end.
The Hong Kong protest started in 2014.

Therefore once Xi gotten all his power now, he is starting to earn a little bit of money and trying to get rid of all of Jiang's faction.
Jiang faction actually worked with the United States to make it very extremely difficult for Xi to work.

This has got nothing to do with imperialistic ambitions that the United States already have.

They just want to earn money

In regards to the economies is it pretty much to the point of no return, it is a matter of time thats all.

This post was edited by Hamsterbaby on Aug 7 2022 05:08am
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Aug 7 2022 12:39pm
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Aug 7 2022 06:53am)
The leaders of China before Xi, Jiang Zemin and Hu Jintao, basically fit this bill, didn't they? I think it's no coincidence that China saw it's most rapid rise in terms of economic and diplomatic power during their tenure while China has made a lot more enemies since Xi took over.

If you ask me, Xi dropped the pretense of China being a peaceful, benevolent power too soon. Had China been able to hide its aggressive, imperialist ambitions for just a couple more years, they could have subverted Western societies and economies to the point of no return.


Xi Jinping's early family life was destroyed by political strife. He's also incredibly intelligent, an engineer background. A scary mix of character traits from someone who also seems to be able to lead a mob organization like the CCP. He's probably exerting his revenge now.

I wouldn't underestimate their situation. They have subverted the west in many ways. What are we doing about tik tok? Or about fentanyl biological warfare? Why are our politicians not doing anything? I think they've already sold out to them in many ways. Trump was the only one in modern times that competed with their deception on even footing, and China succeeded in completely destroying him in 2020.

If America were in their place, we would probably do the same thing. Just look what we did to Iraq, we literally poisoned their water supply.
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Aug 7 2022 12:49pm
The biggest mistake tard dems and warmongers make is the opinion China needs to attack Taiwan to subjugate them. Taiwan is a small island. China can completely isolate Taiwan from land and see. After a long while they'd surrender themselves without a shot being fired. Attacking Taiwan, a fortified island with hardly any backup would be the most stupid move any Chinese would do. You can be sure their leaders aren't as dumb as corrupt democrat politicians.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Aug 7 2022 12:50pm
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Quote (EndlessSky @ 7 Aug 2022 20:39)
Xi Jinping's early family life was destroyed by political strife. He's also incredibly intelligent, an engineer background. A scary mix of character traits from someone who also seems to be able to lead a mob organization like the CCP. He's probably exerting his revenge now.

I wouldn't underestimate their situation. They have subverted the west in many ways. What are we doing about tik tok? Or about fentanyl biological warfare? Why are our politicians not doing anything? I think they've already sold out to them in many ways. Trump was the only one in modern times that competed with their deception on even footing, and China succeeded in completely destroying him in 2020.

If America were in their place, we would probably do the same thing. Just look what we did to Iraq, we literally poisoned their water supply.


(Trying to) ban TikTok was one of the brightest ideas Trump had throughout his entire presidency! ;)




Quote (babun1024 @ 7 Aug 2022 20:49)
The biggest mistake tard dems and warmongers make is the opinion China needs to attack Taiwan to subjugate them. Taiwan is a small island. China can completely isolate Taiwan from land and see. After a long while they'd surrender themselves without a shot being fired. Attacking Taiwan, a fortified island with hardly any backup would be the most stupid move any Chinese would do. You can be sure their leaders aren't as dumb as corrupt democrat politicians.

To do that, China's navy would need to be strong enough to fully encircle Taiwan and defend the siege ring against the US navy. And they'd need to pull this off with the US navy being hid in the wake of Taiwan island, where they'd be safe from China's landbased long-range anti-ship missiles, and be protected against China's air force by Taiwan's air defense.
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Aug 7 2022 08:38pm
Is the Philippines next?
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Aug 7 2022 08:38pm
I don't think China wants to attack Taiwan

TSMC has too much control over the world's chip market

This post was edited by KrWWW on Aug 7 2022 08:39pm
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Quote (Mondain @ 8 Aug 2022 10:38)
Is the Philippines next?


The Chinks are not USA or WW2 Japan mate... :rofl:
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