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Jul 26 2022 12:39pm
Quote (Sioux @ Jul 26 2022 02:34pm)
I didn't say anything about Roe. I'm just saying the power of judicial review is not in the constitution. Nothing you highlighted gives the court power to strike down laws passed by Congress or undo actions taken by the executive. It's literally the foundation of constitutional law, that marbury versus madison established the power of judicial review. It's like, day 1 of history of the court class.




I even underlined it in RED. Try reading... THEN type.
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Jul 26 2022 12:39pm
The problem the USA is facing is illiteracy
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Jul 26 2022 12:43pm
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I even underlined it in RED. Try reading... THEN type.


Literally nothing you underlined has anything to do with judicial review. Try reading, then type. This isn't a controversial opinion I'm expressing to you, I'm telling you the reality of constitutional law that has been set in stone since 1803. You're misreading the constitution if you think that's describing judicial review.
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Quote (Sioux @ Jul 26 2022 02:43pm)
Literally nothing you underlined has anything to do with judicial review. Try reading, then type. This isn't a controversial opinion I'm expressing to you, I'm telling you the reality of constitutional law that has been set in stone since 1803. You're misreading the constitution if you think that's describing judicial review.


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Quote (NatureNames @ 27 Jul 2022 02:37)
"Is USA Facing a problem" makes it sound like a new thing. But the problem has been there since the beginning.

The US constitution is vague in it's wording. There is more than one accepted interpretation and judges are allowed this freedom of interpretation. How a judge is feeling that day, their political opinions, their personal life, etc. might all play a part in their interpretive view.


So in a rather crude and uncouth manner , my apologies, if they are having their period, all common sense will be off and whoever that is appointed, be it left or right leaning will set shit on fire yo.
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Jul 26 2022 12:46pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jul 26 2022 01:39pm)
I even underlined it in RED. Try reading... THEN type.


he's right. previous to 1803 (well after the drafting of the constitution) the scotus existed, but judicial review did not.

the constitution as drafted left the actual role of the SCOTUS unclear, even the federalist papers only make it clear that it was meant to be a check on federal power, but not how.
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Jul 26 2022 12:47pm
The idea that what's written in the constitution has no weight in judicial review is wrong.

Edit- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judicial_review_in_the_United_States

This post was edited by Mondain on Jul 26 2022 12:51pm
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The idea that what's written in the constitution has no weight in judicial review is wrong.


you're misreading, while calling others illiterate.

the process by which congress/senate/president draft, debate, vote on, and pass laws is clearly drafted.

the process by which the SCOTUS themselves are nominated and appointed is clearly drafted.

how the SCOTUS operated wasn't clearly drafted. of course the wording of the constitution was considered by Marshall, but his ruling in the case was his opinion, and it became the precedent by which judicial review was justified and never ended.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Jul 26 2022 02:51pm)
you're misreading, while calling others illiterate.

the process by which congress/senate/president draft, debate, vote on, and pass laws is clearly drafted.

the process by which the SCOTUS themselves are nominated and appointed is clearly drafted.

how the SCOTUS operated wasn't clearly drafted. of course the wording of the constitution was considered by Marshall, but his ruling in the case was his opinion, and it became the precedent by which judicial review was justified and never ended.


So you've read the US consitution and bill of rights? Without lieing.

e- And yes I am literally calling people illiterate. Too many base their life on emotion rather than truth.

This post was edited by Mondain on Jul 26 2022 12:53pm
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So you've read the US consitution and bill of rights? Without lieing.


yes. i have credits from law school on constitutional law. ghot has a certificate in fantasy map making.
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