Quote (fender @ Jul 4 2022 01:05pm)
that's not the argument i'm making, nor is it an argument anyone has ever made, my brave conqueror of vicious strawman hordes. the actual argument (which is well supported by statistical evidence from around the globe) is that bad guys in civilised countries simply will have a much more difficult time to obtain a gun, and much less of a "need" for one to begin with. criminals, police, and everyone else would not consider literally every single fellow citizen as a potentially lethal threat.
the thing that gun-sexuals always seem to forget while day-dreaming about the incredibly unlikely (compared with the multiple times higher chance of you or one of your family members getting hurt or killed by your own firearm) "my gun saves the day" scenario is that if you live a reasonably normal life, chances are that there simply isn't anyone out there hell-bent on ending your sorry little existence.
let me paint a more likely scenario: while raiding your mom's fridge in your pink anime panties (not judging) at night, you surprise a burglar - in a civilised society, chances are they would not be prepared or even just equipped to kill you. they would probably just take off, realising there's literally nothing of worth to begin with - and that's a good thing, because your gun is still under your pillow in the basement.
people wouldn't execute their drunk neighbour stumbling across their lawn because they thought their life was in danger, or even just because they knew they can get away with it in that shithole of yours - they'd be annoyed, call them a drunk cunt, and that's the end of that story. no life lost.
That's a long way of saying I like to dream up fantasy strawmans to prove shall not be infringed doest exist.
You fervously love pointing out any and all statistics/examples as long as they support the NPC mindset you don't ever question. The second the statistics say the opposite you go off on a huge tangent how they stats are all wrong and or just completely ignore it. Let's face it you are theorycrafting larper who thought to take those ideals into PaRD. I am wiling to bet not only have you failed at just about every argument you made here but you most likely got shit on by the power gamers on any platform.
If you have a point make sure to end it with in my opinion and at the very least provide some evidence/statistics.
Here is one for you gun ownership is only prohibited in Cambodia, Eritrea, and Solomon islands.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation#:~:text=In%20a%20few%20countries%2C%20including,by%20civilians%20is%20completely%20prohibited.
Look at their crime rates
Eritria
Eritrean forces have carried out large-scale massacres, summary executions, widespread sexual violence including rape, gang rape, and sexual slavery, widespread pillage, attacks on refugee camps, and destruction and pillaging of crops.
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2022/country-chapters/eritrea#:~:text=Eritrean%20forces%20have%20carried%20out,destruction%20and%20pillaging%20of%20crops.
Do you want to live in cambodia?
Let's be honest you are armcharing theories which in practical world do not apply.
This post was edited by addone on Jul 3 2022 08:13pm