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Jun 2 2022 10:21pm
Quote (Ghot @ Jun 2 2022 07:22pm)
Well, two things.
Unless I'm mistaken, the cops that "just stood by" weren't real cops... they were school cops?

But all the furor that arose from that is what made me consider the "serve and protect" phrase.
If we keep firing, suing, convicting cops for pretty much doing their jobs... it may come back to haunt us, when we actually NEED their protection.

Just sayin'...



They were real cops. Uvalde only had 6 officers in it's school department, the rest were the full fledged city cops.

If an officer is so butthurt over some words in the press that they'd let a room full of children die, they have no business being in law enforcement.
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Put them on trafic regulation or fire them. Use real militaries who did their minimum 2 years of -military- training.


Ban guns, then fire police, introduce military holy shit son you are on the roll.
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Jun 2 2022 10:48pm
Quote (Sioux @ Jun 2 2022 12:44pm)
What other profession can abandon their duties when they receive criticism?


Lol, "abandon their duties". Are you serious? The existing cops would just quit and new people would stop enlisting as cops, when they see that this is how it's gonna be. And then there would be no more police.

We need to acknowledge that police officers have an incredibly tough job to do. Not only do they put themselves in physical danger, now they got the media and society to deal with, too. I would quit if I were a cop.

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Jun 2 2022 10:54pm
Quote (Sioux @ Jun 2 2022 09:21pm)

If an officer is so butthurt over some words in the press that they'd let a room full of children die, they have no business being in law enforcement.


It's not just having to deal with public opinion though. We sometimes do send cops to jail for simply doing their job. If we keep doing this, no one is gonna want to be a cop anymore.
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Jun 3 2022 06:02am
Quote (Sioux @ Jun 3 2022 12:21am)
They were real cops. Uvalde only had 6 officers in it's school department, the rest were the full fledged city cops.

If an officer is so butthurt over some words in the press that they'd let a room full of children die, they have no business being in law enforcement.




The article I read said the school cops wouldn't let the real cops inside.
I don't know what the jurisdiction would be in that situation.
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Jun 3 2022 06:29am
Quote (Cascadian @ 2 Jun 2022 13:07)
Why are the majority of voices around this thread legitimately insane fringe views of this country. Why is PaRD more extreme than POL?


Accusing the majority of fringe views: Democrats 2022.
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Jun 3 2022 07:58am
Quote (Ghot @ Jun 2 2022 02:46pm)
I saw a comment on the interwebz, saying: Why should my taxes go to the police, if they aren't going to protect?

I thought... that's a good point. THEN I thought... police "were" protecting, up until everyone started blaming the police ofr just about everything.
So now the question is... do the police generally feel they don't have to protect, or do they feel that way NOW after all the BS they've been put through for the past 2 years or so?

I know I've said it before, that if you keep sending police to jail for doing their jobs, as best as they can... then who IDS to blame when they just stand around while kids are getting shot?


You're ignoring all the cops that actually abuse their power and don't follow protocol, rules, or the constitutional rights of the people. It's those cops that generate the hate the good cops get because their are quite a lot of county's with bad cops.

But if you want to make a post making you look stupid, you go right ahead. Can't believe you made a post making it out that people are the problem.
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Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 3 2022 05:29am)
Accusing the majority of fringe views: Democrats 2022.


ummm no PaRD is not a typical slice of the American people there are way too full on election deniers/flat earthers etc. shooters are FBI agents or the ol Alex listeners.
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Jun 3 2022 08:08am
Quote (Ghot @ Jun 2 2022 09:22pm)
Well, two things.
Unless I'm mistaken, the cops that "just stood by" weren't real cops... they were school cops?

But all the furor that arose from that is what made me consider the "serve and protect" phrase.
If we keep firing, suing, convicting cops for pretty much doing their jobs... it may come back to haunt us, when we actually NEED their protection.

Just sayin'...


Unjustly killing or abusing civilians is "just doing their job"? Why is it that every other profession on the planet can have accountability for one's actions on the job except for law enforcement?
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Jun 3 2022 08:18am
Quote (D_urRRR @ 3 Jun 2022 06:58)
You're ignoring all the cops that actually abuse their power and don't follow protocol, rules, or the constitutional rights of the people. It's those cops that generate the hate the good cops get because their are quite a lot of county's with bad cops.

But if you want to make a post making you look stupid, you go right ahead. Can't believe you made a post making it out that people are the problem.


Back in the 90's we were pretty big on attempting to hold police accountable. There were so many cases of police brutality, primarily against white women, secondarily against white men, third against black men, but impacting every other demographic as well, including children, that it seemed like a major fucking problem.

Strides were made. Things like shoulder cams, which were implemented on a trial basis in many jurisdictions from 2005-2013, yielded great data, showing police behaved more appropriately when they had something such as that to hold them accountable, without preventing them from doing their jobs.

Then, in 2014, after Michael Brown beat the everloving shit out of a cop and tried to steal his gun to murder him, and was shot dead for his trouble, it became all about "Black Lives Matter". On the very same day that an officer killed Michael Brown in self defense, a white teenager in Utah was gunned down by police. He was unarmed and had offered no resistance or cause to the officer. The incident was considered "following policy" and no investigation ensued. Nobody cared. Nobody cares today.

This is the largest part of the problem with points such as yours, they ignore the efforts of the last decade to turn a viable attempt at police accountability into a massive race-based grift.

The problem that Ghot is pointing out isn't the problem that we had in the 90's. It's new. We are currently at a point that thanks to the race-grifters of BLM, the police are terrified to pull the trigger if the target is anything other than white. Why would cops refuse to stop an active shooter who's killing children? He was brown. Even being the same race as the criminal who is shot is no protection for the officer. It's gone so far as people demanding that officers be currently taking fire before they ever draw their firearms. Hell, there were even calls for prosecution when an officer saved the life of a black girl by shooting the black girl who was attempting to murder her by stabbing her with a butcher knife. To put yourself in the position of the officers in Uvalde who refused, why would you ever intervene in any school shooting where the shooter is non-white, possibly being shot and either injured or killed yourself, when there's a very high likelihood that you will end up prosecuted for magically being racist?

What about the current climate encourages any dedicated police officer to remain with the force? What about the current climate encourages good people to join today? If you're one of the people truly dedicated to insuring peace and safety to your community, why would you join the police, when you've now been told that to enforce the law is racist, if the suspect is non-white? And if the suspect IS white, and there are unlikely to be any repercussions, why SHOULDN'T the police officer act with extreme and unlawful brutality? Good cops? Why would there be any?

Quote (theCrossbones @ 3 Jun 2022 07:06)
ummm no PaRD is not a typical slice of the American people there are way too full on election deniers/flat earthers etc. shooters are FBI agents or the ol Alex listeners.


Go back to watching Maddow telling you what "the right" thinks, kiddo. I'm not interested in your nonsensical projections of what PaRD or anything else is.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Jun 3 2022 08:22am
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