You are not ready.
I can't wait to see the look on your face.

I know how to solve America's most basic problems.

The populists were seen as a way to take back control, when in reality all they'll do is speed up the timeline of the bourgeoise. poor rural idiots in the south will be signing up for sterilization to put food in their bellies 50 years ahead of schedule all because their idiotic children got scared by NATO round bans and blamed politicians for GE moving their jobs to China rather than, hmmmm idk, GE.

The idea that people see politicians as a separate entity from corporations is so funny. They're all in on it together. You blame the populist rhetoric for speeding up the timeline, but that's just accelerating a plan that's already in motion because the underclasses are beginning to make a small fuss.



This reads like someone who has never attempted to understand the conservative agenda. Not surprising, I remember a few years ago a study demonstrated that right wing people had a much better understanding of left wing policies/motives/goals than leftwingers concerning the rights agenda. As for the claim of reverting the US to 1940 never going to happen, I don't think people want that. I think your point though is to say America won't be a manufacturing powerhouse with a strong middle class composed of stable family units. Anything is possible with the proper directions and the will.

The people who run this country don't want a strong middle class. They don't want stable families. They don't want home owners. They want a transient obedient working class with no familial obligations distracting them from their corporate duties and no home to root them to any specific place. They want all Americans to have no incentive to save money, no reason to refuse a transfer, no reason to miss a shift at work. Complete obedience to your Amazon overlords. This is what establishment Republicans and Democrats want. You could argue the far left opposes this, but replace Amazon overlord with party officials and they're happy for the same results.



I'm sure the World Economic Forum let you know how bad the tariffs made things for everyone. I still find it amusing how every nation maintains higher tarriffs than the US, I guess they're just willing to sacrifice their own workers and nations economic prosperity. If only they'd look to the US and see those pesky tariffs only ever hurt domestic industry, this study by Amazon and Walmart says so after all! Shucks! I guess you're right, no point in producing anything domestically, it only harms American jobs. Thank God global corporations can import everything we need, we just have to be obedient corporate consumers, hope you renewed your subscription to Amazon Prime! Make sure to order some Chinese made niknaks while watching a gay romance set in Middle Earth brought to you by Jeff Bezos.

McConnel is effective but no Republican voters like him, because he only promotes corporate interests and fails on promoting any conservative interests. Trump was ineffective because he had no idea what he was doing, had zero support to advance his populist agenda from his own party, and his opposition party obstructed for 4 solid years (but this is democratic, unlike when poor Garland couldn't have his hearing and now weaponizes the FBI to terrorize families to protect the financial interests of his son in law). Not to mention the Deep State interference from entrenched interests. Remember when the Pentagon lied to Trump about troop numbers to prevent him from reducing presence overseas (but this was probably democratic too for reasons, adults in the room, agent of Putin).

It's a little unfair to trash Trump considering his hands were tied at every level, on top of him being inept. And don't get me started on the FBI and DoJ launching phony investigations at the behest of Clinton and Obama. And all of mainstream media, being the obedient dogs they are, carrying water for the interests of the Global Elite.

causation =/= cooperation.

corporations bought and paid for the political landscape, but the chicken still must lay an egg.

politicians are not the be without some blame for the horrid job landscape in the rust belt and deep south, but they still got paid to make that reality possible. corporations wanted to gut the lowskill to noskill job landscape of america, so they bribed corporations to make it happen. they paid the US govt to back college loans for the next generation of workers so they could tell people who got 2.5 gpas in highschool "you dont want this factory work anyways" after they got through college on govt backed loans with a 2.5 gpa. meanwhile they bolstered social programs to decrease the fallout in places to avoid "town starves when Dodge plant is moved to china". rotted downtown store fronts arent good pr but starving kids is disastrous. so the corporations paid to have the US govt and taxpayers take the brunt of the negative effects while reaping massive profits and writing off as much of their own tax burden as possible by charging us to move with their costs and eliminating payments via the R&D loophole.

at the end of the day we must remember that politicians take maybe 100k$ from some corporation in a senate race where they spend 30$m, in a general understanding that they will pass pro business legislation. meanwhile corporations raked literal billions of dollars for every "company town" they turned into ashes. people love to blame bill clinton for this, he's a convenient figurehead, and no one even knows the names of the CEOs who made 100$m bonuses for sending jobs to mexico, china, and india. they're nameless grey faces, drinking champagne on mega yachts while people focus on how much bill gets paid to do a 10 minute speech at some leftist PAC, or how much HRC got paid to do a talk for a banking ceremony.

as to the last sentence, yes. turning a majority of the US population into white walled apartment dwelling micro consumers while corporations grab the last of the earth's wealth before a space expansion was always the plan. the issue with speeding it up is we dont have the infrastructure to match the corporate greed. without UBI and specific rules and regulations we'll see blood in the streets and an increased crime wave that takes a long time to fix.

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You're conflating sanity with policy. At a high level, there really isn't anything wrong with having a more protectionist/nationalist Republican party vs. a neoconservative party. Many conservative thinkers have been advocating this shift for years. Personally, I don't agree with it, but there's nothing wrong with shifts in ideology. What the GOP HAS double-downed on though is anti-intellectualism and the mainstreaming of conspiracy theories. The GOP shamelessly promotes legitimate morons and seems to have lost control at the NATIONAL level. We need leaders who are capable of creating a roadmap, translating an ideology into actionable policy, etc. The GOP simply doesn't have that and they won't until they are capable of having the strength to crush the idiots who are hurting the party.

If you want an example of a leader, take a look at Newt Gingrich. Is he a piece of shit person? Undoubtedly. However, the "Contract With America" was a vision that had actionable policy. Not all of it was successful and some of it was bad policy. However, you can't deny that it fundamentally changed the country and made the GOP a powerful force for decades.

I think you're missing just how deeply entwined the interests are. They don't just donate to campaigns, they employ their children, they marry into the families, the manage the investments. I don't care how much campaigns take in, I'm more concerned with the investments politicians and their families profit from. They leaders of these industries very easily move between government and private sector. Pentagon positions filled by defense contractors, that type of thing.

Politicians didn't just let it happen. They wanted it to happen. They sold out the economic future of their countrymen to profit themselves. And they continue to do so.

The biggest reason I support UBI is because the elites already feasted on the corpse of America, so the people might as well enjoy some scraps. That's also why I never was offended on January 6. The Capital is the brothel where they sold out the people. I wish the protestors would have burned it down.

While i agree the relationship is a deeply intertwined cess pool of corruption i still have to maintain that corporations reap the largest proportion of the benefits. it's the same relationship with dirt bag lobbyists, sure tobacco made some lawyers with silver tongues millionaires by paying them bloated yearly salaries to go lie on their behalf, but at the same time they made billions from the benefits those lobbyists provided. there's an order of magnitude between the employer and the employee here, and somehow the public spotlight is firmly on the employees. the corporations have us arguing about who they want us to, not them.

Is it about the party or the people? The Republican votes prefer the crazy, maybe they're buying what they're selling. I don't think a protectionist/nationalist platform will have the opportunity to achieve a contract with America moment. The entrenched interests of the political and financial elite will not allow that.

Doubling down on anti-intellectualism makes sense when the intellectuals are stupid. Embracing conspiracy theories makes sense when they keep turning out to be true.

Bush invaded Iraq and committed war crimes, he lied to do so. That seems insane to support.

Trump was the most peaceful President since Carter.

The truth is, they say Trump is insane because they see Bush as rational. The Iraq War was not insane because the entrenched interests that direct American policy wanted regime change in Iraq since before the Gulf War and simply needed the proper pretext for engaging in such a policy.

The "sane" GOP is the party that goes along with the plan. The same plan the Democrats are playing by. The last half decade is evidence of this. There is no democratic will, the policy of the United States Government does not reflect the will of the electorate. But it does reflect the will of international corporations and the Global Elite. Now I wonder if maybe the global elite and international corporations might actually be the ones in control.

We blame the politicians because they are supposed to be accountable to the public. Washington could enact policy that benefits the people, but they do not. I could rage at the corporations like I could rage at a wild dog, the dog is doing what's in it's nature. The fault lies with the owner in not properly restricting the animal or putting the mad beast down.

The more I talk about it, the more I am convinced politics is nothing more than theater for the sake of the actors. I'll take a break.