Quote (dro94 @ 3 May 2022 15:45)
Rather than go down the rabbit hole with you of what are subjective definitions which have been discussed 1000x times on PaRD and are predicated on semantics, we should be able to reach a consensus amongst decent people that abortions should be outlawed unless essential
If you don't want the baby because you're too poor or you haven't got your post-grad in gender studies yet then give the baby away instead of taking the most convenient way out
quite the opposite, i'm asking for specific definitions in order to take semantics and moral outrage out of your very emotional posts. apparently we haven't discussed those terms often enough here, because you're making the same dumb appeals that religious zealots make, which simply don't acknowledge or even address the complicated nature of the issue.
the whole "just give it up for abortion" bs not only ignores the significant issues with adoption and foster care systems, but also the nine months leading up to birth. not that even if we were willing to let women deal with all that (easy to do as a man), the fundamental issue of bodily autonomy would be addressed, let alone settled.
we agree that abortions aren't good, but unlike you, i realise that laws don't prevent them, that restricting women's rights won't lead to the desired outcomes. my solution is to stop the moral crusade and pearl clutching, eliminate the economic pressure, educate young people, provide affordable health care - the american way is to ignore all that and simply restrict women's rights. don't be american.