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Depression and suicide rates from all the economic pressures has a major impact. People are overall unhappy rising inflation and another bubble approaching. It's planned stress and chaos to exhaust and tire the population into submission


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Americans are more unhealthy than other high wealth countries because of high fructose corn syrup.
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As far as I'm aware, blacks suffer from obesity more than other races in the United States. That's not a great explanation.

I would expect that whites are older than blacks or Hispanics, so if we're blaming Covid that's the likely cause.
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As far as I'm aware, blacks suffer from obesity more than other races in the United States. That's not a great explanation.

I would expect that whites are older than blacks or Hispanics, so if we're blaming Covid that's the likely cause.


You're talking about things which are already factored into life expectancy. Blacks have historically had lower life expectancy than non-Hispanic whites (although Black women have at times had a higher rating than white men), so saying that whites are older doesn't change anything. Neither does the rate of obesity, because that's already baked into the numbers.

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Cause everyone chugs coke and shoves it down with Mc Donald's. What is surprising exactly?


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As far as I'm aware, blacks suffer from obesity more than other races in the United States. That's not a great explanation.

I would expect that whites are older than blacks or Hispanics, so if we're blaming Covid that's the likely cause.


Blacks have worse outcomes because they are, on average, not taken care of by the medical system as well as whites even of equal standing.

There's a wealth of literature on the topic. Implicit bias in medical professionals is still a very big problem.
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You're talking about things which are already factored into life expectancy. Blacks have historically had lower life expectancy than non-Hispanic whites (although Black women have at times had a higher rating than white men), so saying that whites are older doesn't change anything. Neither does the rate of obesity, because that's already baked into the numbers.


Older people die at far higher rates from Covid-19. If whites are older as a population, you'd expect for white life expectancy to drop. That said, it doesn't look like a great explanation either, because black and Hispanic mortality also fell sharply in 2020. That can probably be attributed to higher rates of obesity and greater contact with the virus. Perhaps the drop among whites in 2021 was the result of lag, as more whites were exposed (and subsequently died) later. Or perhaps suicide rates among whites, who suffer at far higher rates than either blacks or Hispanics, is part of the cause.

It is interesting that the abstract handwaves Hispanic and black mortality as "systemic racism" and pivots to "[there] could be multiple factors" for whites. We might not be dealing with the best and brightest.

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Blacks have worse outcomes because they are, on average, not taken care of by the medical system as well as whites even of equal standing.

There's a wealth of literature on the topic. Implicit bias in medical professionals is still a very big problem.


We're not talking about why blacks have a lower life expectancy than whites. We're asking why whites in 2021 experienced a decline in life expectancy (among whites) that was not seen in the black and Hispanic communities.

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We're not talking about why blacks have a lower life expectancy than whites. We're asking why whites in 2021 experienced a decline in life expectancy (among whites) that was not seen in the black and Hispanic communities.


I flipped the numbers in my head for which groups went down lol

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Blacks have worse outcomes because they are, on average, not taken care of by the medical system as well as whites even of equal standing.

There's a wealth of literature on the topic. Implicit bias in medical professionals is still a very big problem.


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We're not talking about why blacks have a lower life expectancy than whites. We're asking why whites in 2021 experienced a decline in life expectancy (among whites) that was not seen in the black and Hispanic communities.


Probably drug overdoses. I for one am glad that they are dying in large numbers because that's one less leech we need to support. It isn't hard to say no to drugs.
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