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Mar 30 2022 06:34pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Mar 30 2022 07:23pm)
You just proved my point. Words are more than their literal meaning. Words (and therefore labels) are socially constructed, and gender is no different.


The fallacy last time was a red herring, this time its a nonsequitor. A book is more than its cover. Books are constructed on a printing press, and blueberry pies are no different.
Again, lopping the meaning off of words no more makes an argument than lopping the meat stick off a man makes a woman. You can try to redefine words all day long or muddy them into uselessness. Words are just tools to express concepts, and they don't change reality.
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Mar 30 2022 06:38pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 30 2022 07:34pm)
The fallacy last time was a red herring, this time its a nonsequitor. A book is more than its cover. Books are constructed on a printing press, and blueberry pies are no different.
Again, lopping the meaning off of words no more makes an argument than lopping the meat stick off a man makes a woman. You can try to redefine words all day long or muddy them into uselessness. Words are just tools to express concepts, and they don't change reality.


If words are just tools to express concepts then you should have no issue with agreeing that gender is a social construct. After all, as long as I've laid out the concept I'm trying to convey with the word gender then that's all that matters.

You don't get to say "words are just tools to convey meaning" and then say "You don't get to redefine words". Sorry, can't have your cake and eat it too.

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If words are just tools to express concepts then you should have no issue with agreeing that gender is a social construct. After all, as long as I've laid out the concept I'm trying to convey with the word gender then that's all that matters.

You don't get to say "words are just tools to convey meaning" and then say "You don't get to redefine words". Sorry, can't have your cake and eat it too.


I guess it can argued that gender is a social construct, however it's mostly based off of biological sex. Yes there are those that blur the lines however they are mostly seen as freaks.
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Mar 30 2022 06:52pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Mar 30 2022 07:45pm)
I guess it can argued that gender is a social construct, however it's mostly based off of biological sex. Yes there are those that blur the lines however they are mostly seen as freaks.


All categories are social constructs, first off. If you are sorting things, you're just doing it for your own brain's satisfaction. Nature just makes things that reproduce. It doesn't say "okay, this one's gonna be X and this one's gonna be Y". It just kinda does things. If a third sex that happened to be able to reproduce with both other sexes happened by accident then nature would continue it. It wouldn't say "you are wrong, go away". No, it would propagate. Because nature doesn't do categories.

That's something hard for people to realize. We project so much onto reality that isn't there.

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Quote (JessiWan @ Mar 31 2022 01:25am)
But if you call a rock a rose, it will still remain a rock. It won't start smelling good like a rose does, no matter how many people you can get onboard to start calling it a rose.


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Mar 30 2022 07:34pm
if it has chromosome Y, its a guy

if the phenotype doesnt match the genotype, its a physical illness

if the gender doesnt match the phenotype, its a mental illness
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Quote (Snyft2 @ Mar 30 2022 06:34pm)
if it has chromosome Y, its a guy

if the phenotype doesnt match the genotype, its a physical illness

if the gender doesnt match the phenotype, its a mental illness


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Quote (JessiWan @ Mar 31 2022 03:39am)
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Mar 30 2022 07:45pm
Humans are too advanced for nature.
Just look around you.
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Get out of here with your degenerate bullshit
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