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#21
Mar 29 2022 05:36pm
Quote (fender @ Mar 29 2022 06:11pm)
you think educators should NEVER ever mention any word related to sexual orientation, but surely you wouldn't support a LAW that limits free speech, right?

You’re obviously not exactly working with a triple digit IQ, but even someone as incredibly stupid as you should be able to differentiate between “never” & not to a 4 or 5 year old, like the bill stipulates. Then again it is you….
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Mar 29 2022 05:37pm
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We definitely need more racist xenophobic transphobes to come chime in though.


Your implications are unwarrented. Don't think ive ever addressed you nor you know where I stand in regards to such claims.
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#23
Mar 29 2022 05:43pm
the only "indoctrination" in this context is right wing NPCs being indoctrinated with the completely baseless narrative that children are being "indoctrinated" with "inappropriate garbage". it's obvious that not a single one of them has ever taken a minute to critically think about it, do some research, and asked themselves if there's ANY proof of that actually happening, to even "justify" this egregious attack on free speech, this blatantly authoritarian overreach...
not that it would even debunk the conclusion that their defence of "free speech" on previous issues was always just a defence of hate speech and racism, and NOT merely a principled stance on the issue of speech.
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#24
Mar 29 2022 05:44pm
What if they ask?
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Mar 29 2022 05:48pm
Quote (fender @ Mar 30 2022 12:37am)
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/dont-say-gay-law-desantis-b2045882.html

i'm still waiting to see some principled outrage over florida's "don't say gay" bill, particularly from our right wing crowd, who constantly clutch their pearls over "free speech" and "censorship" when it comes to defending racist and bigoted speech on privately owned platforms.
this is clearly a much more egregious attack on free speech, so any principled "free speech" proponent will fundamentally disagree with the precedent this law sets, right? can't be that they don't actually care about free speech, and just want to protect hate speech, right?


first of all, no discussion should be banned. and i dont really care if its race/iq, holocaust, or whatever taboo subject you had in mind :mellow:

but by this i do mean discussion, not brainwashing children about things that dont concern them at all :wacko: do what a good parent should do, teach the kid to ride a bike, play football, you know, kid stuff :blush: ! but please keep the agenda away from kids, thats lowest of the low and i cant understand how someone can even think about doing that :cry: let kids be kids and if you see a drag queen within 100m of a school, do a full cavity search without lube :mellow:
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Mar 29 2022 05:48pm
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again, you very obviously have no clue what's ACTUALLY happening in classrooms. literally NOTHING suggests children are being "indoctrinated" with "inappropriate garbage". that's a completely made up narrative to make gullible morons support the restriction of free speech, in order to further marginalise a small minority of people. it's pure culture war bullshit that only stupid people would fall for, with no facts whatsoever to back it up. anyone dumb enough to uncritically support this clearly doesn't give a shit about free speech, and their pearl clutching over racists being censored on private platforms was clearly in support of their hate speech, not some principled stance on speech itself.


i have a pretty good idea



entire compilations of US classroom madness are available to watch for everyone to see and to make things worse: most teachers nowadays are toxic social justice warriors just like you

i care a lot about free speech, i support garbage like you talking whatever they want about me, go for it sweetheart, i dont need protection unlike other snowflakes

but leave kids alone, none of that shit belongs there, pro lgbtq, anti lgbtq, pro orange man, anti orange man, creationism, you name it

why is it so hard to just leave people be?
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#27
Mar 29 2022 05:48pm
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 30 2022 01:44am)
What if they ask?


if they ask, they will ask the parent <_<
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#28
Mar 29 2022 05:53pm
Fender shouting at the clouds again. Like it or not, indoctrination comes in many colors. Where I grew up/went to school, education was heavily tied to religion. It's silly to think moral attitudes/cultural trends do not intertwine with what's tought/what kids learn in school. Neither of us is American, nor has any kids in the affected institutions, so pretty funny for you to 'call out' others for not knowing what is 'really' going on there.

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#29
Mar 29 2022 05:54pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ 29 Mar 2022 19:03)
This has literally nothing to do with saying the word “gay”. That’s become a very stupid platitude. There’s no reason why teachers should be having discussions about sexual orientation with a 4 or 5 year old. Period. That’s the job of a parent. Why are democrats such pedophiles ?

“gay” isn’t even in the text of the bill. then again the left and media were never known for their ability to read

is it any wonder the usual suspects here want grown adults talking to 5-7 year olds about sexual “topics”
probably just trying to justify their own ‘habits’
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#30
Mar 29 2022 05:56pm
Quote (Snyft2 @ Mar 29 2022 07:48pm)
if they ask, they will ask the parent <_<


They learn more from each other. And if they ask the teacher then what?

This post was edited by Skinned on Mar 29 2022 05:56pm
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