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Mar 27 2022 07:05pm
Quote (addone @ Mar 28 2022 07:44am)
You are confusing billionaires with byproduct.
Being a billionaire is usually a by product of providing mass good. Not always and sometimes it is necessary evil too.

Billionaires are simply creation of our reward/puninshment system. Every communist ideal from National government to hippy communes/Jewish Kibutz all fail financially. Because the incentive to innovate and grow doesn't come from brotherly love and altruistic benevolence. It comes from big fat paychecks. You take away said riches and society devolves into feudalism.

You take away billionaires or the means of becoming one what do you have left? cap wealth at $1m then no one is going to bother trying to do anything beyond that.

Also no one will agree to that. Your entire premise is flawed our socialist schooling system has implanted many deep fallacies.
Drop the idea or the blame of billionaires as a cure for world problems. Because greed will exist as a species we are still not evolved enough. Work on you.



You talk like a narcissist. In the narcissistic persons mind, the people they exploit are lucky to be their source of food.

The Earth is extremely rich in resources of multiple ontological levels; materials, vegetation, animal, and humanity. There is more than enough to satisfy the needs of every person on Earth several times over, there is not enough to satisfy the wants of even one greedy person because they have a thirst which can never be quenched.

This post was edited by MildSambal on Mar 27 2022 07:14pm
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Does Kim Kardashian count?
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Mar 27 2022 07:22pm
Quote (MildSambal @ Mar 28 2022 02:05pm)
You talk like a narcissist. In the narcissistic persons mind, the people they exploit are lucky to be their source of food.

The Earth is extremely rich in resources of multiple oncological levels; materials, vegetation, animal, and humanity. There is more than enough to satisfy the needs of every person on Earth several times over, there is not enough to satisfy the wants of even one greedy person because they have a thirst which can never be quenched.


That's called miss direction, or strawman. I was polite to answer your question directly and then expand on it and your resort to putting labels?

There is no narcissism involved my guy. These are indisputable facts that have been manifest time and time again on every place on earth and any time in history that it has been tried.
You cannot even identify the source of the problem. You sound like a young angry teen who is mad at the world and is ready to use the wealthy as a scapegoat for all the problems. I've been there bud, after the emo makeup wears off and the wrist scars heal, when you get a job maybe even run your own business one day then you can be more well equipped discussing these things.

Till that day just enjoy video games and the freedoms we still have.
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Mar 27 2022 07:28pm
no such thing as a self made billionaire
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Mar 27 2022 07:37pm
Yes

everyone here arguing otherwise have the following characteristics:

biologically male
pale
pasty
privileged
done for if suntan lotion didnt exist
warmongers
anti-cap but support bloomberg and bezos and weinstein
support hollywood
want world war IIII
net-negatives to society
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Mar 27 2022 07:37pm
Quote (blahaj @ Mar 27 2022 10:37am)
no


Vouch.

Wealth binds you to the material world and the only way to get that much money is to make at least a few major moral sacrifices.

Quote (excellence @ Mar 27 2022 09:37pm)
Yes

everyone here arguing otherwise have the following characteristics:

biologically male
pale
pasty
privileged
done for if suntan lotion didnt exist
warmongers
anti-cap but support bloomberg and bezos and weinstein
support hollywood
want world war IIII
net-negatives to society


I'm pretty sure every billionaire has killed or seriously harmed at least one person. At least out of neglect.

As a billionaire that you have an army of people trying to sue and steal from you. I think the only way to survive at that point is to reflexively break a few eggs.

Quote (bogie160 @ Mar 27 2022 07:15pm)
I'm not sure it's clear what you think is unethical about companies buying one another.

You might want to take a step back and define for us what you think it means to be ethical.


Anti-trust laws. Corporations have too many legal protections in the current age.

Senior management can just blatantly break laws and use plausible deniability to get away without any penalties.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Mar 27 2022 07:43pm
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 28 2022 08:37am)
Vouch.

Wealth binds you to the material world and the only way to get that much money is to make at least a few major moral sacrifices.



I'm pretty sure every billionaire has killed or seriously harmed at least one person. At least out of neglect.

As a billionaire that you have an army of people trying to sue and steal from you. I think the only way to survive at that point is to reflexively break a few eggs.



Anti-trust laws. Corporations have too many legal protections in the current age.

Senior management can just blatantly break laws and use plausible deniability to get away without any penalties.



Boeing and Purdue Pharma are good examples of companies that willfully ignored major ethical issues and pressed forward in the name of profits. Then when they got caught red handed they used legal protections to feign plausible deniability.
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Mar 28 2022 12:43am
Quote (Sh00p @ Mar 28 2022 01:57am)
Notice how your post is the only one on this entire page op doesnt partake in.


notice how I care lmao.

there's no morality to be had in business.

you can make money or you can make friends.

and btw, if you analyze, child labour actually helps the children.
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Mar 28 2022 08:31am
The billionaire tax laws you think are good are written and paid for by billionaires who have no intention of giving away their money to make poor people happy on Twitter . 1 + 1

I got a bridge for sale. Great location. Minimal paperwork. Bidding starts at $30 million.
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Mar 28 2022 08:51am
maybe if you bought like 20$ worth of crypto in 2011 and HLODed
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