Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Mar 13 2022 12:10am)
Not american but it's clear that Iraq destruction in 2003 was definitely a war crime for foreign influence (also helping Israel far right gov) since US killed a million civilians and hundred(s) thousands children by destroying bridges, water, electricity etc... Even ruining literacy and women equality that was about to make Iraq a really strong country in this region.
And later largely provoked ISIS chaos, Syria... Yemen. Some day they could pay it back, especially with nuclear proliferation.
As European i hope we take our distances asap with US on defense, Ukraine war could boost it, and we are not stupid: it's obvious that US are calculating the war in a way that could weaken EU too.
Our politics are plenty aware of it, and the most important: many europeans are aware of it too.
Still, this is not really possible to do a comparison with Ukraine which is democracy in progress that didnt invade anyone. Vs Saddam Iraq.
Usually Americans of this sub will shut their mouth when it's about 2003 iraq war. I'll stop beating the dead horse now ;)
US openly spat in the face of international law when they invaded Iraq. When the so-called "world police" is seen by all breaking the law, it is not surprising other nations will not respect this international law. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Russia would never have had the guts to annex Crimea or invade Ukraine had that precedent not been already set. Now US is hypocritically crying about upsetting the world order and systems of international law.
I get that probably, most Americans did not want to invade Iraq... But that doesn't explain the wildly different intensity of condemnation we are witnessing.
Ukraine being a democracy after the coupe is debatable at best, but even so, let us assume it is. I wanted to discuss and understand how Americans (and others too who hold the same view) factor "democracy" in their views and reactions to events.
This post was edited by Lebanon961 on Mar 12 2022 04:25pm