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Feb 4 2022 03:15am
Quote (Ghot @ Feb 4 2022 03:45pm)
Also... if you recall, the Star Tribune has been caught publishing deliberately incorrect news in the past. Numerous times.
For example... nowhere in that whole article does it say WHY the police went to that apartment. I would think that was a crucial piece of information.


Not to mention, if you live in a high crime neighborhood, you can't expect the same treatment as if you lived in a low crime neighborhood.
You need to be twice as careful.

Even a black cop in St. Paul Minn, is gonna shoot first and ask questions later, considering what has happened in St. Paul in the past couple years.

Also, at 0:28 you can SEE the guy on the couch has woken, rose up and turned around with the gun in his hand.
I mean the cops are shouting "search warrant". The proper response to that is NOT to get up, with gun and turn to face the police officers.


So you do not support the second amendment?
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Feb 4 2022 03:22am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Feb 4 2022 04:15am)
So you do not support the second amendment?




Ofc I support the 2nd Amendment. I got no problem with the guy having the gun.

If a bunch of cops came busting into my home, yelling search warrant... the last thing I'd do is wave a gun around. LOL
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Ofc I support the 2nd Amendment. I got no problem with the guy having the gun.

If a bunch of cops came busting into my home, yelling search warrant... the last thing I'd do is wave a gun around. LOL


He was asleep and dead less than 10 seconds later, you think you would be able to work out what was going on in 10 seconds?
I take a minute to process my 5 am alarm.

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He was asleep and dead less than 10 seconds later, you think you would be able to work out what was going on in 10 seconds?
I take a minute to process my 5 am alarm.


we don't get warrants executed on us over homicides.

what was the desired outcome you are suggesting? point the guns at each other for one minute until he wakes up properly? or knock on the door and lose the element of surprise?

this was a classic mexican standoff.
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Feb 4 2022 03:51am
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we don't get warrants executed on us over homicides.

what was the desired outcome you are suggesting? point the guns at each other for one minute until he wakes up properly? or knock on the door and lose the element of surprise?

this was a classic mexican standoff.


No knock warrants should be illegal.
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Feb 4 2022 03:57am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Feb 4 2022 09:51am)
No knock warrants should be illegal.


why?
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Quote (SanduLungu @ Feb 4 2022 10:57pm)
why?


Cause one could have his pants down while jerking to anime. :rofl:

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Quote (Ghot @ Feb 3 2022 10:45pm)
Also... if you recall, the Star Tribune has been caught publishing deliberately incorrect news in the past. Numerous times.
For example... nowhere in that whole article does it say WHY the police went to that apartment. I would think that was a crucial piece of information.


Not to mention, if you live in a high crime neighborhood, you can't expect the same treatment as if you lived in a low crime neighborhood.
You need to be twice as careful.

Even a black cop in St. Paul Minn, is gonna shoot first and ask questions later, considering what has happened in St. Paul in the past couple years.

Also, at 0:28 you can SEE the guy on the couch has woken, rose up and turned around with the gun in his hand.
I mean the cops are shouting "search warrant". The proper response to that is NOT to get up, with gun and turn to face the police officers.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_inertia

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Sleep inertia is a physiological state of impaired cognitive and sensory-motor performance that is present immediately after awakening.


You don't get to judge someone's cognitive performance immediately after shocking them awake. Soldiers will kill in this state. You also don't know what dreams the person may be experiencing at the time.
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Quote (Santara @ Feb 4 2022 10:30am)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_inertia



You don't get to judge someone's cognitive performance immediately after shocking them awake. Soldiers will kill in this state. You also don't know what dreams the person may be experiencing at the time.


"In the majority of cases, morning sleep inertia is experienced for 15 to 30 minutes after waking."

SWAT should call in advance and make a booking for performing the warrant.
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Quote (SanduLungu @ Feb 4 2022 04:35am)
"In the majority of cases, morning sleep inertia is experienced for 15 to 30 minutes after waking."

SWAT should call in advance and make a booking for performing the warrant.


They should fucking exercise their goddamned duty of care.
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