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Dec 21 2021 09:50am
Quote (Knarglegarth @ Dec 21 2021 09:35am)
Yes, only 800k deaths in our country alone and 73% of new cases are this particular variant.

99% of anybody who’s ever had Covid recovered. If you’re concerned & or old, fat or in poor health, take precautions. Get vaccinated, wear a mask, stay inside. It’s not the end of the world.

tHe OmNiCrOn!!!1 :o

Nobody cares
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Dec 21 2021 10:15am
Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 21 2021 09:24am)
many "sane" people claim it provides "the best immunity"

studies seem pretty clear:

natural + vaccine > natural > vaccine > none


That thread was closed.
Didn't want you to think I was running away.
Here was my reply:

Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 21 2021 09:52am)
its history textbooks and the US constitution you disagree with.


Ok chief, here it is.

The entire premise of the constitution is we have inalienable right that are granted by god and can not be taken away.

Everything else is a guide of sorts to help us reach these goals.

I think perhaps you are to caught in legal/illegal, assuming that is the goal.
This has happened to many.
Legal/illegal are tools.
Tools used to get to what does matter, right and wrong.

So now the question becomes, is it wrong for someone to leave an agreement that only writes down rights.
Rights agreed by everyone who signed it, that was granted only by god.

Well, is it?

This post was edited by sirthom on Dec 21 2021 10:17am
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Dec 21 2021 10:32am
Quote (SunnyvaleTrailerPark2 @ Dec 20 2021 10:58pm)
The victim,aged between 50-60 years old, was at higher risk of severe complications from COVID-19 as he was unvaccinated, the health department said in a statement.

County judge Lina Hidalgo tweeted that the man was the first local fatality from the variant.

"Please - get vaccinated and boosted," Hidalgo said.

Sponsored by Pfizer


They're literally using one data point as an excuse to push a harma ad ad campaign against millions.

This is at Obama levels of propaganda.
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Dec 21 2021 10:41am
Quote (sirthom @ Dec 21 2021 11:15am)
That thread was closed.
Didn't want you to think I was running away.
Here was my reply:



Ok chief, here it is.

The entire premise of the constitution is we have inalienable right that are granted by god and can not be taken away.
https://constitutionday.cpms.osd.mil/old/course2005To2008/508/course2.jpg
Everything else is a guide of sorts to help us reach these goals.

I think perhaps you are to caught in legal/illegal, assuming that is the goal.
This has happened to many.
Legal/illegal are tools.
Tools used to get to what does matter, right and wrong.

So now the question becomes, is it wrong for someone to leave an agreement that only writes down rights.
Rights agreed by everyone who signed it, that was granted only by god.

Well, is it?


There’s legal precedent here.

“So when the Cambridge board of health decided that all adults must be vaccinated for smallpox, Jacobson sought refuge in the Constitution’s promise that no state shall “deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process of law.”

The year was 1904, and when his politically charged legal challenge to the $5 fine for failing to get vaccinated made its way to the Supreme Court, the justices had a surprise for Rev. Jacobson. One man’s liberty, they declared in a 7-2 ruling handed down the following February, cannot deprive his neighbors of their own liberty — in this case by allowing the spread of disease. Jacobson, they ruled, must abide by the order of the Cambridge board of health or pay the penalty.

“There are manifold restraints to which every person is necessarily subject for the common good,” read the majority opinion. “On any other basis, organized society could not exist with safety to its members. Society based on the rule that each one is a law unto himself would soon be confronted with disorder and anarchy.””

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/magazine/2021/09/08/vaccine-mandate-strong-supreme-court-precedent-510280

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Dec 21 2021 10:42am
Quote (sirthom @ Dec 21 2021 05:15pm)
That thread was closed.
Didn't want you to think I was running away.
Here was my reply:



Ok chief, here it is.

The entire premise of the constitution is we have inalienable right that are granted by god and can not be taken away.
https://constitutionday.cpms.osd.mil/old/course2005To2008/508/course2.jpg
Everything else is a guide of sorts to help us reach these goals.

I think perhaps you are to caught in legal/illegal, assuming that is the goal.
This has happened to many.
Legal/illegal are tools.
Tools used to get to what does matter, right and wrong.

So now the question becomes, is it wrong for someone to leave an agreement that only writes down rights.
Rights agreed by everyone who signed it, that was granted only by god.

Well, is it?


So god exists?

Where can I meet him/her?
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Dec 21 2021 10:46am
Quote (IgoSoHard @ Dec 21 2021 10:50am)
99% of anybody who’s ever had Covid recovered. If you’re concerned & or old, fat or in poor health, take precautions. Get vaccinated, wear a mask, stay inside. It’s not the end of the world.

tHe OmNiCrOn!!!1 :o

Nobody cares



The Netherlands just issued a lockdown. Guess some people do care about omicron.

The end of the world it is not. But is it something of concern? That will be clearer once the initial data comes back from the waves currently spiking in the UK, Denmark, and the Netherlands.
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Dec 21 2021 10:50am
Quote (sirthom @ Dec 21 2021 11:15am)
That thread was closed.
Didn't want you to think I was running away.
Here was my reply:



Ok chief, here it is.

The entire premise of the constitution is we have inalienable right that are granted by god and can not be taken away.
https://constitutionday.cpms.osd.mil/old/course2005To2008/508/course2.jpg
Everything else is a guide of sorts to help us reach these goals.

I think perhaps you are to caught in legal/illegal, assuming that is the goal.
This has happened to many.
Legal/illegal are tools.
Tools used to get to what does matter, right and wrong.

So now the question becomes, is it wrong for someone to leave an agreement that only writes down rights.
Rights agreed by everyone who signed it, that was granted only by god.

Well, is it?



Also, just because I’m genuinely curious, have you ever had a vaccine in your life? If you’re American and went to public school, you were required to get a myriad of vaccinations - tDap, polio, measles, etc. as a child in order to attend.

And what are your thoughts on the fact that over 90% of doctors and vast majority if politicians worldwide (left, center and right) are fully vaccinated?
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Dec 21 2021 10:55am
Quote (AvanineCommuter @ Dec 21 2021 10:50am)
Also, just because I’m genuinely curious, have you ever had a vaccine in your life? If you’re American and went to public school, you were required to get a myriad of vaccinations - tDap, polio, measles, etc. as a child in order to attend.

And what are your thoughts on the fact that over 90% of doctors and vast majority if politicians worldwide (left, center and right) are fully vaccinated?


False data.
We used to have science based policy.
We now have policy based "science".

People put large stock into expert opinions.
They know this and have stacked the deck accordingly.
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Dec 21 2021 10:58am
Quote (AvanineCommuter @ Dec 21 2021 10:50am)
Also, just because I’m genuinely curious, have you ever had a vaccine in your life? If you’re American and went to public school, you were required to get a myriad of vaccinations - tDap, polio, measles, etc. as a child in order to attend.

And what are your thoughts on the fact that over 90% of doctors and vast majority if politicians worldwide (left, center and right) are fully vaccinated?


Also, what is your opinion on the fact that the percent that is vax'd.
Is the same percent they want to get rid of?
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Dec 21 2021 11:00am
Quote (sirthom @ Dec 21 2021 11:58am)
Also, what is your opinion on the fact that the percent that is vax'd.
Is the same percent they want to get rid of?
https://infiniteunknown.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/georgia-guidestones-maintain-humanity-under-500-million.jpg



First, you need to define who “they” are?

Because most likely “they” are vaccinated.
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