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Dec 20 2021 06:05pm
maybe their will be a REEEEEEEEEEE brain spin out and impeach trump again
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Dec 20 2021 06:07pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Dec 20 2021 05:56pm)
Ah yes. Because we can suddenly trust the polls. Probably the same ones that predicted a 99% chance of a Hillary win in 2016.

Lol


Tell me, how high was the margin of error in 2016, and how high would the margin of error have to be today for those proposals to not be overwhelmingly popular?

I know you think this was a gotcha, but all you did was show you don't even know basic statistics. Like, not even the kind of stuff they should have taught you in middle school.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 20 2021 04:07pm)
Tell me, how high was the margin of error in 2016, and how high would the margin of error have to be today for those proposals to not be overwhelmingly popular?

I know you think this was a gotcha, but all you did was show you don't even know basic statistics. Like, not even the kind of stuff they should have taught you in middle school.


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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Dec 20 2021 04:07pm)
Tell me, how high was the margin of error in 2016, and how high would the margin of error have to be today for those proposals to not be overwhelmingly popular?

I know you think this was a gotcha, but all you did was show you don't even know basic statistics. Like, not even the kind of stuff they should have taught you in middle school.


Margin of error? Please, we are way past that in today's world. Now it's just straight up make up numbers out of thin air.

And by the way, I did a quick search for "poll numbers for build back better west virginia" and 3 out of 5 of the top results say voters overwhelmingly oppose the BBB bill.

So what poll did you cherrypick to make your assertions? Lmao. The most biased one, of course
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Quote (chopstickz777 @ Dec 20 2021 06:23pm)
Margin of error? Please, we are way past that in today's world. Now it's just straight up make up numbers out of thin air.

And by the way, I did a quick search for "poll numbers for build back better west virginia" and 3 out of 5 of the top results say voters overwhelmingly oppose the BBB bill.

So what poll did you cherrypick to make your assertions? Lmao. The most biased one, of course


If you googled it post your source. I'm leaving now to drop my wife off at a show, so if you've shown good faith and found a decent and recent poll I'll do the same when I get back.

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Dec 20 2021 06:27pm
for sure Joe Manchin is disgusting, i don't understand why he's not simply kicked out of this party.
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Dec 20 2021 06:35pm
Results of top 5 searching for "poll numbers for build back better west virginia" (using Qwant.com search, I don't use google)

Against BBB:

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2021/10/26/2060416/-A-sobering-poll-most-Arizonan-WV-voters-oppose-Build-Back-Better-bill

"A majority of those polled (52%) in West Virginia supported scrapping the Build Back Better bill, citing concerns of inflation and potential future tax increases. Only 32% is respondents supported passing the bill now. Results in Arizona were only slightly more favorable, with a strong plurality of voters (47%) still opposed to the bill."

https://dailycaller.com/2021/12/13/poll-joe-biden-inflation-build-back-better/?_nhids=VLjfV64d7&_nlid=zrC9V6XxUS

"A Remington Research Group poll conducted in West Virginia found that 62% of respondents said they had seen, read or heard “a lot” about the Build Back Better Act (BBB). A 53% majority of all respondents said they strongly oppose the legislation, and 59% of independent respondents said they strongly oppose it."

https://www.theblaze.com/news/joe-manchin-poll-build-back-better

New poll results show strong support for Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), and even more West Virginians applaud him in opposing President Joe Biden's multitrillion-dollar reconciliation spending bill.

"A poll conducted by MBE Research during the week of Nov. 7 among 702 registered West Virginia voters showed that Manchin is overwhelmingly supported by his constituents when it comes to taking a stand against Biden's massive spending bill. The poll declared that 74% oppose President Biden's reconciliation spending bill in favor of legislation that would control spending more."

For BBB:

The first article is a fluff piece on Sander's comments about Manchin and doesn't include poll numbers.

The fifth result is a PDF file showing support for BBB:

https://www.filesforprogress.org/memos/bbb-wv.pdf


The results using Google are totally different and mention nothing about the polls listed above that indicated opposition to BBB. I went through 3 pages of Google search results. All hints of opposition to BBB in West Virginia have been 100% scrubbed from Google. Gee, I wonder why?

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Quote (WickedDarkJuggalos @ Dec 20 2021 04:04pm)
If you think this bill (I refuse to say the name because it is so fucking dumb and is a lie in itself) is anything but an enormous power grab and croney money distribution then you will never be convinced. Sorry but you are wrong.

If you want to help poor people do something yourself, stop trying to convince people these horrible spending bills are going to end poverty. As if Americans are living in squalor. Get fucking real.

Sure let’s give a few billion to help the poor. That’ll shut them up while we spend hundreds of billions to my homies here, few hundred billion to these lobbyists over here, oh yeah who wanted those big contracts? I got you boo we building back better.



I'm sorry. We're talking about the build back better bill not the trump tax cuts.
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Dec 20 2021 06:55pm
think i saw an article past few weeks about him making like 500k in dividends from coal stocks, pretty fuckin based tbh
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Quote (Skinned @ Dec 20 2021 06:15pm)
The guy is corruption exemplified and one of the reasons our decadent society is failing.


I blame the welfare state and Russian communist atheism.
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