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Quote (thesnipa @ 9 Dec 2021 10:29)
https://sports.yahoo.com/kellogg-permanently-replace-striking-workers-154720822.html

in october 1400 or so workers went on strike to protest a myriad of issues.

-7 day work weeks sometimes for as many as 120 days in a row
-company looking to reduce benifits from health to retirement
-company rakes record profits, pays massive dividends, and CEO gets raise
-company creates "transitional employment" so called onramp to full time employment, largely never delivers
-lack of grieving/funeral days, holiday days off, etc.
-require employees on short notice to cover for another employee that calls in sick, sometimes with as little as 10 mins notice
-company complained about pay of employees, which was largely driven by required overtime and holiday pay

well they were on strike for months, company offered a 3% raise, employees rejected it, and a few days later are now all being replaced just in time for christmas.

my opinion is that of the 1400 or so fired employees they'll be replaced with 1200 or less new employees and automate a large number of processes as well as phase out temp employees to automate even more. having worked with Kellogg in the past they're perhaps the most cutthroat of all our customers, true scumbags that just chase profits for stock prices.


What a terrible company. F em.
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Dec 9 2021 03:36pm
RIP. Strikes are stupid - go find another job.
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Ok but why turn it into a huge comminist winge?
Don't like your job/pay then leave. Or start your own. All those workers can't form their own company and start producing better products with higher wage?

Also don't like the company? don't buy their products

Why is every communist instead of finding or creating new jobs likes to turn into a little whiny toddler?

This post was edited by addone on Dec 9 2021 04:18pm
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Quote (addone @ Dec 9 2021 05:10pm)
Ok but why turn it into a huge comminist winge?
Don't like your job/pay then leave. Or start your own. All those workers can't form their own company and start producing better products with higher wage?


That's not really a solution and even if they were able to do that against the odds they would face... their own company could start exploiting their workers and the cycle continues.
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Quote (addone @ Dec 9 2021 04:10pm)
Ok but why turn it into a huge comminist winge?
Don't like your job/pay then leave. Or start your own. All those workers can't form their own company and start producing better products with higher wage?

Also don't like the company? don't buy their products


Because that's a totally easy thing to do for any worker, and I'm sure the barriers to entry for new competing businesses are super low-to-non existent. I bet it would be a cinch for these workers to acquire the necessary capital, too.

Mega easy.

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Quote (GodSmiter @ Dec 10 2021 11:16am)
That's not really a solution and even if they were able to do that against the odds they would face... their own company could start exploiting their workers and the cycle continues.


Oh no.. You mean they could turn into hypocrites aswell?

Quote (Surfpunk @ Dec 10 2021 11:19am)
Because that's a totally easy thing to do for any worker, and I'm sure the barriers to entry for new competing businesses are super low-to-non existent. I bet it would be a cinch for these workers to acquire the necessary capital, too.

Mega easy.


It's never been easy for a good reason
If you are not willing to start and run a business you demand you are entitled to then don't go around waving signs. Every one of those big companies had humble beginnings and every one had major barriers to overcome.
If you not willing to walk the talk then shut up. Too many armchair communists demanding shit they themselves not willing to do

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Oh no.. You mean they could turn into hypocrites aswell?


Ur missing the point, there's a reason why these strikes exist, it acts as a check against any company to pull shyt like this.
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Quote (GodSmiter @ Dec 10 2021 11:20am)
Ur missing the point, there's a reason why these strikes exist, it acts as a check against any company to pull shyt like this.


Don't like your pay or work conditions? Negotiate with the boss about improving that. Pretty sure they will be willing to discuss options. If not then leave and don't buy products from them. It's full of sugar and advertising anyway.

Also there was no time in history where it's been easier to start a business and to finance it. There soo much money begging to be invested to any decent idea. You are so out of touch it's uncanny

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Quote (addone @ Dec 9 2021 04:20pm)
Oh no.. You mean they could turn into hypocrites aswell?



It's never been easy for a good reason
If you are not willing to start and run a business you demand you are entitled to then don't go around waving signs. Every one of those big companies had humble beginnings and every one had major barriers to overcome.
If you not willing to walk the talk then shut up. Too many armchair communists demanding shit they themselves not willing to do


So, because these companies had humble beginnings and overcame major barriers, that means they can treat their workforce like shit?

Quote (addone @ Dec 9 2021 04:31pm)
Don't like your pay or work conditions. Negotiate with the boss about improving that. Pretty sure they will be willing to discuss options. If not then leave and don't buy products from them. It's full of sugar and advertising anyway.


That's literally what unions do.
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