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#21
Dec 5 2021 09:17am
Quote (belthasar @ Dec 5 2021 09:43am)
im genuinely confused as to what people believe here

dont abrahamic religions teach that god is a seperate concept from humanity, hence the whole idea of a saviour

if were saying that everything that exists is a manifestation of that god then wouldnt the implication be that hitler is just as much a manifestation of the will of god as the pope?

how do you define any morality if god has already done all possible bad things? why would you follow the teachings of religious scripture if that same scripture teaches that god has experienced intentionally misleading mankind through false scripture?


God didn't do the bad things because he gave us free will.

Otherwise we would all be slaves.

God is not the same as us, thus the rules are different for him.
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Dec 5 2021 09:17am
Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 5 2021 02:45am)
so far its just bullchit stuff until you can back it up with scripture, version, chapter and verse.


Scripture? Please.

Spiritual understanding does not necessarily have to come from religion, which has been twisted into a control mechanism for most people.
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Dec 5 2021 09:36am
Quote (EndlessSky @ Dec 5 2021 10:17am)
God didn't do the bad things because he gave us free will.

Otherwise we would all be slaves.

God is not the same as us, thus the rules are different for him.


but if he is omniscient that implies he has total experiential knowledge of all possibilities. which means he has personally experienced being hitler, right?
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Dec 5 2021 09:43am
Quote (belthasar @ Dec 5 2021 07:36am)
but if he is omniscient that implies he has total experiential knowledge of all possibilities. which means he has personally experienced being hitler, right?


Hitler is just as much the Creator as you are.

So yes.

The point is to learn from it so that God or the Creator might know itself.

The entity called "Hitler" is unlikely to repeat the same errors he made in future incarnations.
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Dec 5 2021 09:50am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Dec 5 2021 10:43am)
Hitler is just as much the Creator as you are.

So yes.

The point is to learn from it so that God or the Creator might know itself.

The entity called "Hitler" is unlikely to repeat the same errors he made in future incarnations.


bro youre being too reasonable im trying to rile up christians here stop coming at me with these based takes
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Dec 5 2021 09:53am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Dec 5 2021 07:17am)
Scripture? Please.

Spiritual understanding does not necessarily have to come from religion, which has been twisted into a control mechanism for most people.


if your talking about the bible then back your claim up. version, chapter and verse.
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#27
Dec 5 2021 10:03am
God doesn't exist

Grow up
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Dec 5 2021 10:12am
Quote (duffman316 @ Dec 5 2021 08:03am)
God doesn't exist

Grow up


llol u making a godhood claim
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Dec 5 2021 10:18am
Quote (TiStuff @ Dec 5 2021 09:53am)
if your talking about the bible then back your claim up. version, chapter and verse.


What about the Council of Nicaea?
Where several books where altered or completely removed.
This was 1000 years before King James.

Not to mention all the other translations, changes and lost chapters.

Also, what bout all the other saviors before Jesus with many of the exact same attributes?

I'm not saying there isn't truth in the bible.
I am saying that the story is incomplete and goes much deeper.
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#30
Dec 5 2021 10:23am
Quote (duffman316 @ Dec 5 2021 11:03am)
God doesn't exist

Grow up




Quote (belthasar @ Dec 5 2021 10:36am)
but if he is omniscient that implies he has total experiential knowledge of all possibilities. which means he has personally experienced being hitler, right?


And Stalin. And your mom.

This post was edited by EndlessSky on Dec 5 2021 10:24am
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