Looks to me like you have a skewed value on human life, do not understand what police are trained to do, and/or have never been in a situation where you have <1 second to make a life or death decision.

Police are trained to neutralize a threat (man firing directly upon them). Poor training would have likely resulted in the police being injured or killed. This is very similar to when breonna Taylor got shot. The police followed protocol and returned fire only after being fired upon.

It is not fair to say the blindly fired into a house. They shot into a window from which gunshots were being fired on them.

Except felons, current, and former. Felons only right is that they don't get lynched - but giving felons, or allowing felons to have guns is a dumb move and I don't support it.

Looks like they caused the threat via poor execution.

Piss poor training I'd say.

I guess it's reasonable to conclude many saw it that way given the Jury's decision.

This post was edited by SBD on Nov 23 2021 10:22pm

welcome to America!

other more advanced countries have actual requirements for their cops more than "hur dur hit this target 3 times out of 500 at 5 yards good job you have a badge."


Seriously, our police system sucks. My town precinct happens to have some enlightenment in the form of mandatory 2-year criminal justice degree or similar for all applicants. But the rest of the area, and beyond are all shite cop after shite cop.

The Second disagrees with you.

A "former felon" is simply a citizen. A citizen has the right to carry arms. Either they paid their debt to society, or it's time to execute all felons.

I know the 2a doesn't make a stipulation about felons. My personal opinion is my personal opinion about it. Just like I think druggies should all be shot in the head for being a drain on society. And people that are stupid and inept by personal choice of laziness should be forced into fields to work to live.

Just my opinion.

Your opinion, thankfully, isn't the Constitution.

I'll make an argument against your druggie opinion as well by asking a simple question: How are druggies a drain on society?

Think about the question with all due severity before answering. Then, read the following, then think it through some more, and I'm honestly curious.

The base chemicals for something like Meth are incredibly cheap, and even as little as 35 years ago were relatively easy to obtain. No nastiness, no bathtub crank, no extracts. Simple chemical process. It was cheap. $10 could get you enough to last a week, vs coke costing $10 for a line. Likewise, anyone could make it for themselves. Now, there are dangers there, but fully functional tax paying citizens could operate completely normally with their habit. People weren't killing each other, robbing each other, or otherwise causing issue over it.

Move forward to today. Chemicals to make it have all been barred from public purchase, even many of the bases with which to extract from are highly controlled. Meth, throughout most of the nation, even the toilet crank, is MORE expensive than coke. People are murdering each other over it on a daily basis, it's a primary funding source for Mexican Cartels and other Terrorist organizations, and those who're dependent on it are willing to go to whatever lengths necessary to get it, turning them INTO criminals.

So, which came first, people being useless because of substance abuse, or the substance being so heavily criminalized that it turned people useless because it took 100% of their productivity to get their next fix? I'd argue that prohibition does not work, causes more damage than it resolves, and creates criminals out of normal people. Historically, we know this as fact. But perhaps meth, crack, powdered coke, heroin, etc. etc. are all the exception, as opposed to the rule? Or may it be that all the people, hundreds of thousands, dying of fentanyl poisoning are dying because people have been deprived of their particular recreational of choice, and fallen prey to something more addictive and potent, that wasn't what they thought they were paying for?

Just a thought.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 23 2021 11:22pm

Let me be blunt.

I don't give a shit what drug people are abusing/recreationally using. Fuck every single one of them. Same with alcoholics, smokers, and gamblers.

Bob is a self-admitted alcoholic who drinks a pint of vodka a day.

Mods: Those are his own words. He's admitted it on multiple occasions. This is not me insulting him.

I agree. Anyone who consumes too much simple sugar needs to fuck off.

Literally everyone who eats cereal. The majority of processed food. Don't even get me started on KFC Salads.

Soda? Fuck no. The dental costs to the nation are excessive, the obesity costs? This is the #1 health risk on the planet today.

Let's be blunt, those who consume such things are a drain on society, and should start digging their own ditch.

...What's that, you say? It's different? No, it's not. Your drug just happens to be more harmful than theirs. So choose, full authoritarian, we control everything anyone puts in their body at all times, or we leave people the fuck alone until they do something to directly harm someone else?

Pick one. Authoritarian, or Liberty. There are only two choices. Are you the guy who teaches Africans about Missionary Style, because it's the only godly way to procreate, then creates sodomy laws to enforce it, or are you the guy who says, "What you do on your free time is not my concern, and stay out of my bedroom, dick!" ??



You're lying again. I've never admitted to being an alcoholic, nor to drinking a pint "every day".

@Mods, same shit, different day, eh?

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Nov 23 2021 11:31pm