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Oct 18 2021 02:42pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Oct 18 2021 11:59am)
I don't think you know what "self-defense" means.

Yes, the guy would be shot by a firearm. However, if the person doing the shooting was only trying to protect herself from harm/rape, then it's not "violence". Or if you really insist it is, then maybe it should be allowed.


I don't think death is an appropriate punishment for rape. The Bible says an "eye for an eye" which means that the maximum punishment that a criminal should get is the crime done to them.
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Oct 18 2021 02:46pm
Quote (thundercock @ Oct 18 2021 02:42pm)
I don't think death is an appropriate punishment for rape. The Bible says an "eye for an eye" which means that the maximum punishment that a criminal should get is the crime done to them.


Its all subjective.

To some people, violating them in such a manner is equivalent to killing them. What is the value of permanently staining someone's life just because someone couldn't control their most basic and degenerate urges?


I think that the weight of not only permanently scarring somebody for life, but also for such a frivolous and utterly stupid reason which exposes the rapists blatant disregard for human life - is enough to warrant immediate death.

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Oct 18 2021 02:51pm
Quote (thundercock @ Oct 18 2021 04:42pm)
I don't think death is an appropriate punishment for rape. The Bible says an "eye for an eye" which means that the maximum punishment that a criminal should get is the crime done to them.


It doesn't have to be death. You can aim for the kneecaps and shoulder joints.
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Oct 18 2021 02:52pm
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Its all subjective.

To some people, violating them in such a manner is equivalent to killing them. What is the value of permanently staining someone's life just because someone couldn't control their most basic and degenerate urges?


I think that the weight of not only permanently scarring somebody for life, but also for such a frivolous and utterly stupid reason which exposes the rapists blatant disregard for human life is enough to warrant immediate death.


That's absurd. Any sort of mental anguish can be cured with a combination of will power, therapy, and drugs. Unfortunately, we can't reanimate people yet so killing is almost always unethical.
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Oct 18 2021 02:53pm
Quote (thundercock @ Oct 18 2021 02:52pm)
That's absurd. Any sort of mental anguish can be cured with a combination of will power, therapy, and drugs. Unfortunately, we can't reanimate people yet so killing is almost always unethical.


What proof do you have that the kind of vile human being who would commit rape is even worth redemption?

Why would I waste my time redeeming someone who is a confirmed rapist when I could spend that energy teaching an innocent life not to become the same thing?


Being a rapist is choosing evil; become the demon, face the wrath of the light. Killing rapists is not unethical - its justice; and not only justice, but simply efficient.

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What proof do you have that the kind of vile human being who would commit rape is even worth redemption?

Why would I waste my time redeeming someone who is a confirmed rapist when I could spend that energy teaching an innocent life not to become the same thing?


Being a rapist is choosing evil; become the demon, face the wrath of the light. Killing rapists is not unethical - its justice; and not only justice, but simply efficient.


You can castrate them, imprison them, etc. I don't see any reason to kill them.
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Oct 18 2021 03:10pm
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You can castrate them, imprison them, etc. I don't see any reason to kill them.


All of that costs money. I don't want to spend resources on the human of equivalent of pets.

I would rather donate 40 grand / year to a children's school than spend it housing a degenerate who has already exposed himself as an extreme risk to society.



Let me just lay this out how I think of it and see if you can find the logic in it:

A 25 year old rapist brutalizes someone and is convicted - with the goal of rehabilitation;

He sits in a cell (ideally for 10 years - as he should;)

He is released at 35 years of age - now much older and decrepit than he was before, likely to reoffend; but even he did not reoffend, he is now old.


We have just paid 400,000 dollars to provide room and board to an aging monster who will very likely do it again - instead of giving those resources to someone more valuable; someone morally just and in need, who could have become a doctor or started a business. Does this make sense to you?

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Quote (LoverManGenius @ Oct 18 2021 02:10pm)
All of that costs money. I don't want to spend resources on the human of equivalent of pets.

I would rather donate 40 grand / year to a children's school than spend it housing a degenerate who has already exposed himself as an extreme risk to society.



Let me just lay this out how I think of it and see if you can find the logic in it:

A 25 year old rapist brutalizes someone and is convicted - with the goal of rehabilitation;

He sits in a cell (ideally for 10 years - as he should;)

He is released at 35 years of age - now much older and decrepit than he was before, likely to reoffend; but even he did not reoffend, he is now old.


We have just paid 400,000 dollars to provide room and board to an aging monster who will very likely do it again - instead of giving those resources to someone more valuable; someone morally just and in need, who could have become a doctor or started a business. Does this make sense to you?


Killing people costs money too and in your hypothetical him being released with proper rehabilitation can cause him to become a contributor to society whereas killing him will not allow it.

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Oct 18 2021 03:17pm
Quote (GodSmiter @ Oct 18 2021 03:15pm)
Killing people costs money too and in your hypothetical him being released with proper rehabilitation can cause him to become a contributor to society whereas killing him will not allow it.


The problem with this is that we do not currently have proof of concept for reliable rehabilitation of sex offenders - not even close.

The vast majority of sex offenders go on to reoffend post treatment, especially pedophiles.


And sure, a 20 cent bullet and the cost of cremation - Put it on the Govt. tab.

If I ran the USA, rapists and murderers would literally not even be noticed as they disappear. They would be lead out of the courtroom and thrown straight into the incinerator like the rubbish they are. We have 300Million people who do not commit crimes like these - we can afford to take out the trash.

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Oct 18 2021 03:46pm
Quote (GodSmiter @ Oct 18 2021 05:15pm)
Killing people costs money too and in your hypothetical him being released with proper rehabilitation can cause him to become a contributor to society whereas killing him will not allow it.


Killing people costs money because liberals ruined our criminal justice system.
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