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Sep 30 2021 02:42pm
Quote (SkillRincer @ Sep 30 2021 01:00pm)
i realize the poll maybe more based on the american value of freedom but that country is the greatest civilization the world has ever seen in its entire history

so i dont think its an awful idea to use that countries greatest values as a template, just curious what peoples preference is (if any)


Search up "Greatest Civilizations in history"
Not one of them states USA
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Sep 30 2021 02:42pm
Fragile mind topic, over-simplification, polarization.
One's "freedom" stops when it's a threat to the "security" of others. Poll is timeloss.
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Sep 30 2021 02:43pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Sep 30 2021 03:41pm)
the difference is: rome was so far more advanced than everyone else that after its destruction it took a thousand years plus to get back to that level

rome was built from scratch with very little means in the beginning

america is some poor europeans accidentally stumbling over a vast and almost empty continent with massive resources


Rome was also built over a period of like, thousands of years and didn't really encompass all of the Roman empire. For basically the entirety of Rome's history borders were very loosely controlled. You really only had to worry about the security of the capital, Rome and later Byzantium. So you really can't compare Rome to a modern nation because the modern nation is tightly controlled at every level.
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Sep 30 2021 02:44pm
Quote (MrSK @ Sep 30 2021 01:42pm)
Search up "Greatest Civilizations in history"
Not one of them states USA


Right, because google (or whatever search engine you use) is the sole arbiter on civilizations.
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Sep 30 2021 02:46pm
Quote (thesnipa @ Sep 30 2021 01:24pm)
So you judge the greatest civilization by the technology that civilization has?

meaning the society will only ever get better?

by that metric china will eclipse the US, and soon, despite being a pretty shitty civilization by many metrics.

so please, explain what criteria you use, in detail. or idk, just be a pussi


If anything, *you* are the one who should explain the criteria that you use. After all, you are the one who initially brought up Rome in this thread.
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Sep 30 2021 02:51pm
Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 30 2021 10:43pm)
Rome was also built over a period of like, thousands of years and didn't really encompass all of the Roman empire. For basically the entirety of Rome's history borders were very loosely controlled. You really only had to worry about the security of the capital, Rome and later Byzantium. So you really can't compare Rome to a modern nation because the modern nation is tightly controlled at every level.


more like 500 years until they were the biggest power in the mediterranean and the timeframe goes without saying when the fastest "machine" was a horse

you should get your history straight, the borders were packed with roman troops, they built hadrians wall and the limes just to mention two well known structures
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Sep 30 2021 02:55pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 30 2021 01:44pm)
Right, because google (or whatever search engine you use) is the sole arbiter on civilizations.


As opposed to an opinion that says "techmology gud USA Best"? Yes it is
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Sep 30 2021 02:58pm
Quote (MrSK @ Sep 30 2021 01:55pm)
As opposed to an opinion that says "techmology gud USA Best"? Yes it is


I see that you rely on external authorities to figure things out for yourself. Using your own faculties to arrive at conclusions is foreign to you.
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Sep 30 2021 02:59pm
Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 30 2021 01:58pm)
I see that you rely on external authorities to figure things out for yourself. Using your own faculties to arrive at conclusions is foreign to you.


So I should just rely on my own interpretations of everything and just state it as fact?
Ok you're stupid therefore its fact GG
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Sep 30 2021 03:00pm
Quote (MrSK @ Sep 30 2021 01:59pm)
So I should just rely on my own interpretations of everything and just state it as fact?


Is this what I said?

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Ok you're stupid therefore its fact GG


Lol, butt-hurt.
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