Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 13 2021 09:52pm)

Hospitals are still getting fucked in many places dude. There are states that are still at critical capacity from delta.

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Should the government compel covid vaccination?

Quote (Skinned @ Sep 13 2021 10:10pm)

Federal employees are fair game.

Quote (inkanddagger @ Sep 14 2021 05:19am)

If you don’t love America enough to get a simple vaccination, you don’t belong here in this great land. You aren’t a patriot. You should be deported, executed, or imprisoned.

Quote (JessiWan @ Sep 13 2021 08:38pm)

I am sorry that sarcasm is the only card in your deck.

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 13 2021 09:52pm)

Hospitals are still getting fucked in many places dude. There are states that are still at critical capacity from delta.

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But the study also demonstrates that hospitalization rates for COVID, as cited by journalists and policy makers, can be misleading, if not considered carefully. Clearly many patients right now are seriously ill. We also know that overcrowding of hospitals by COVID patients with even mild illness can have negative implications for patients in need of other care. At the same time, this study suggests that COVID hospitalization tallies can’t be taken as a simple measure of the prevalence of severe or even moderate disease, because they might inflate the true numbers by a factor of two. “As we look to shift from cases to hospitalizations as a metric to drive policy and assess level of risk to a community or state or country,” Doron told me, referring to decisions about school closures, business restrictions, mask requirements, and so on, “we should refine the definition of hospitalization. Those patients who are there with rather than from COVID don’t belong in the metric.”

Quote (bogie160 @ Sep 14 2021 08:36am)

While it's true that even mild presentations of the disease can and are having an impact on hospital capacity, the number of hospitalizations related specifically to covid-19 are likely to be significantly overstated. As many as 50% of cases are incidental diagnoses hospitalized for other causes. For fully vaccinated individuals, it's likely that that number is even higher. ~75% of the eligible population has at least one shot, as that number inches up, there's simply no reason to continue draconian restrictions on economic and social activity.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/our-most-reliable-pandemic-number-is-losing-meaning/ar-AAOoWoE?ocid=uxbndlbing
In other news, Denmark no longer considers Covid-19 to be a "socially critical disease" as their vaccination rates among the eligible population top 80%.
https://www.theguardian.com/weather/2021/sep/10/denmark-lifts-all-covid-restrictions-as-vaccinations-top-80-per-cent

Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ Sep 14 2021 07:17am)

None of this matters you idiot. It is a fact that in the United States, not Denmark, we have several states that are still at critical ICU capacity.